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JRPGfan said:

I hate lag input.

Can you imagine playing Mario platformers via game streaming?

Same thing with competitive first person shooters.

Those guys with physical hardware (their own consoles) will have huge advantages alone due to input lag.

 

Net goes down? no playing.

Data cap reached? no playing.

son/daughter/wife watching netflix/downloading somehting => your not playing (at full speed).

Love collecting physical discs of games you love? too bad.

ect ect ect

 

Just no!

Give us physical consoles for a few gens more atleast please.

Im very much against the idea of streaming your game to you (though it could possibly work okay with like turn based rpgs ect).

 

Upgradable Console?

That sounds cool though.

Well, even if all digital, I can see downloading the entire game before you play. I agree streaming tech needs to be improved a bit more before playing a full game could work (especially at 60fps).



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there will always be Hardware from Sonyand Nintendo.

PSnow pretty much unofficially flopped we still have no European release while Sony is working on the Neo that pretty much tells you where they are going



There's simply no example of this even being remotely likely yet.
I mean people love to use PS Now as an example of this, but really it's just an optional service that allows you to stream older generation titles, certainly no proof that generational, local hardware improvements are being replaced by a broadband/server based approach.

Sony possibly releasing a new version of PS4, with more powerful hardware is just proof that their may be a mid-gen optional update for people, to give them more options for play, though even that will likely just be a tester to see if people like the idea, with the recent backlash of these rumors I wouldn't be so sure it's the guaranteed way forward.
If anything generations may get shorter, but that's about it.

A broadband based platform is inherently unreliable, suffers from latency issues and would be notoriously hard to market from a sales perspective, plus there's the whole inability to really get the most out of such hardware, because it would constantly be a moving target for developers to cater to.

The simple fact that modern consoles have sold better than ever actually points to platform holders not giving that model up, more likely the console model become more prevalent than ever before.

TBH most likely added options will be the way forward, I never understand why people would want something that has worked for so long to disappear.
The best approach is for platform holders to add new features, like keeping the console as the focal point, maybe turn those into personal servers for people to also be able to play their games on the move (whether it's through tablets, phones or dedicated gaming handhelds), then also help to reduce latency through connecting the ecosystem together more and plugging the gaps in latency with added servers that aren't in people's homes.

This kind of stuff takes time to happen too, it won't just be a sudden switch over to this, but rather iteration of added tech into the console ecosystem.

Options people, not lack of options is the future, which means consoles aren't going anywhere for a very long time.



spemanig said:
Everyone go on pretending like it's not though if it helps you sleep at night.

Or pretending like the NX is a 9th generation console instead of a generationless platform like what it actually is.

I know, change and modernization is scary. (its not its awesome)

Yeah, Modernization  aways is good......... even when the "Modernization" make you purchase a lot of Hardwares in less time, where in countries like mine, have a lot of Tax, the Tax for those companies is  nearly greater than 100%, Plus the US$, is up 80-90% YOY, and still have the Store profit's Margin, is aways nice to purchase something so much overpriced  that you cannot believe why the hardware is 4-6x more expensive than on USA.

 

Is great when "Modernization" make you be aways online, or sort of, when in a lot of countries like mine, where the Internet is Poor, and  the "National Agency of Telecommunications" a Goverment's Quality and rule control of  every type of Communications, is helping all the companies that sell Internet, to make Limited Internet (the one that you pay by MB that you use, and not a single fix tax per month), as the Standart, instead of Unlimited internet like the other countries, and the Only one that is against it,  my Country's President, is being attacked by the Senate, and the Congress, without a single good reason, the only reason is for the Vice-President, that was unable  to get even a chair in the Congress,  to take the place of the President, and the Vice-President, is completely  against everything that the President stand up for.

 

Modernization os this kind isn't well accepted even on USA, so if those things became standart, the companies would lose all the Money, and players for countries that are growing  their Video Game Market, and we would end up like China, nearly 100% PC Marketing, or Mobile Marketing, Consoles would die because of it, and people from other countries would Slowly move to PC, this would be a disaster  for a lot of countries, a lot of people would stop of playing Video Game, and would be hard to get new Non-gamers, into the Video Game Market.

 

Mobile Would grown even more because of the Lack of other opitions, and Mobile Games, would became the Standart of the Industrie for the Old Casual gamers, or new Gamers, and PC, would be  for Hardcores players.



SonytendoAmiibo said:

The fact that so many people argued whether the Wii U was 7th gen or 8th gen, and are now arguing whether the NX is 8th or 9th gen just proves that the lines between console generations are already getting blurred.

Standard console generations are over. Deal with it.

And the GC came out 2 years after the PS2 - did people argue that console generations were dead back then too? And just because some people are arguing about it doesn't make it true.



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Soundwave said:

I think there will be a physical PS5/XB2 ... but it will also start to become optional by next gen whether or not you want to own hardware or not.

There won't be a PS6/XB3/NX3 or whatever, upgradable or not because 1 gigabit internet will be standard by then and games will be able to be streamed even in 4K+ resolution.

If Netflix decides for example to offer a gaming service where you can buy whatever game you want, but you don't have to pay $400 for the hardware, and you can run games on high effects that evolve over time ... the Sony/Nintendo/MS model is going to look really, really badly outdated, but Sony is already test driving this idea with PS Now. 

Really ?, 1GBs Internet ?,  where i live you need a Internet of 5GBs, to get a 500MBs, PS5, would launch in 2019-2020, PS6, 2025-2026, i don't think that in 10 Years the World will have such Internet, maybe in Korea.

Korea's Average Internet Speed, is 21.0Mbit/s, is the Faster internet in the World, the seccond best internet is the Japanese internet connection, and is 12,9Mbit/s, USA, Average is 10.00Mbit/s.

 

The World's Average is 3.84Mbit/s, how the Average will became 100 Times better for USA, and 250-300 Times Better Worldwide, in just 10 Years ?.



Lawlight said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

The fact that so many people argued whether the Wii U was 7th gen or 8th gen, and are now arguing whether the NX is 8th or 9th gen just proves that the lines between console generations are already getting blurred.

Standard console generations are over. Deal with it.

And the GC came out 2 years after the PS2 - did people argue that console generations were dead back then too? And just because some people are arguing about it doesn't make it true.

Your just supporting my view. And the Dreamcast came out during gen 5 but is regarded as a gen 6 console. The GameCube came out one year after the PS2 in 2001, not two years after. 

The point is console generations have never been clear cut, and now that we are getting mid gen upgrades, console generations mean nothing.



   

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jason1637 said:
Yerm said:

we are well past that point. there will be a new controller, vastly upgraded hardware, and new exclusive content. its a new console, and its gen 9

Its launching in the middle of 8th gen. Mid gen

thats... thats not how generations work. if a new series of something comes out, that marks the start of a new generation. cell phones change generations nearly every year. time does not matter



Yerm said:
jason1637 said:

Its launching in the middle of 8th gen. Mid gen

thats... thats not how generations work. if a new series of something comes out, that marks the start of a new generation. cell phones change generations nearly every year. time does not matter

That is how a generation works. The definition of a generation is people existing at the same time. As for electronics it's how they exist at the same time. For phone they launch every two years but when they do the new iPhone and new galaxy launches. For the NX it's launching with the ps4 neo and xb1.5 and not  Xbox 2 or ps5 so its a mid gen console. I'll consider it a 9th gen if sony or MS release ps5 or xb2 this or next year.