You didn't get my point. I wanted to point out that there are very few people who EITHER buy a Nintendo console or PS/XBox. People who are mostly interested in "mature games" and third-party titles like GTA/COD/Fifa are very unlikely to choose Nintendo with its family-friendly image, even if it offers the same games. The people Nintendo is competing with Sony and Microsoft for are mostly the casual gamers, of which many haven't bought any next-gen console yet.

Should've known you are an enemy of progress and performance when you started playing RL on PS4.

I still think that the analogy is on point and the reasons why it is not, are arbitrary at best (4 years are ok, 3 years are a crime against humanity). That's what this thread was for. Basically collecting all the arbitrary reasons to defend new hardware so I can use them later. Though it wasn't as much of a gold mine as I hoped it would be. I also hoped some cool mod would move this to Sony discussion but yet another disappointment :(

Of course I am, I'm playing Dark Cloud 2 on a PS4.

The analogy is incorrect because the PS4K is (technically) still the same console. It just comes with a resolution upgrade (or that's what the rumors say)! The NX is a completely new console with exclusive games, etc. It does come sooner than it should but hey it's Nintendo, they get a free pass from me.

Yeah, I know that you could argue that every new console is just an upgrade but that's true only for Sony and Microsoft! Nintendo always brings a new gimmick with every new console. It's far more exciting to wait for the NX than the PS5.

Anyway begone foul demon, get your arbitrary reason to defend new hardware from other poor soul. You are not getting them from me.

Wiiu was launched in 2012, so be remplace in 2017...
If NX is launch on 2016, anyway it can't sell 12 millions in first year, i think NX and wiiu will have a lots of same games on 2016 /2017...
Nintendo can't forget wiiu in 2017, loose millions selling games...

Second time, if NX is handheld devices, we have a lots of chances it will be a wiiu handheld, so Nintendo gonna make two version of their games, WiiU and NX handheld in the same time . So NX could help wiiu untill 2019...

So NX could Killing wiiu selling, the machine selling. But games can be launch on both... That could explain why there is no annonced games on wiiu, this games is also planned to be NX launch title...

Another poor argument by vivster trying to attach strings where they don't belong.

The Nintendo NX has been looked at as a whole new system from the beginning. Rumors seem to be hinting it will have its own gimmick too. Even when it comes down to the games we are hearing that games will be ported to the NX rather then having an upgraded WiiU. To boot the WiiU has sold horribly and it was no surprise at any point that they would want to replace it sooner rather then later. Given part of their aim is to get 3rd party's back suggests an architecture change with hardware competitive to Sony and Microsoft for easier development...

It's clear you are trying attach some kind of similarity to the PS NEO and Nintendo NX but as of yet the situations are completely different with you mindlessly grasping onto poorly thought out attempted analogy's. Do you have anything that suggests it's the same situation?

Citizens of what? You don't have a right here. I owned a Wii U. Had fun with it, the userbase sucked. As a result, the games dried up. Felt let down as it is. Moved country, sold it. Feeling more or less the same as I did about buying an NX or Wii U again. If I still owned a Wii U, I would be just as likely to buy an NX as a PS4.

It's not the same situation. The situation with the NX(or any generation change for that matter) is even worse because it's a completely new eco system that renders the previous hardware iteration obsolete.

Consumer advocates should be furious that with each new console generation, the situation changes completely. Older consoles becoming completely obsolete due to incompatability with the new system and games.

The PS4K does nothing to the PS4. It's still gonna be supported massively, everything can be exported to the new console, no need to buy previously bought games new, no exclusive games that basically force an upgrade, you can keep all your peripherals.

Compare that with the NX. Everything is new, older games are ported to the system and have to be bought again, no backwards compatibility, new peripherals, new online ecosystem(for which you probably have to register again). Wii U is not gonna be supported anymore, Wii U owners are left in the dust.

So in what universe is a regular generation change with all its drawbacks better than what Sony is trying to achieve with the PS4K? The truth is that all generation changes should happen like the PS4K. A console should be built upon and not completely reitterated every few years to force the consumer to buy new hardware and peripherals just to not miss out any games. Isn't longevity the stronghold of all console gamers?

That's why I make these threads, because people are behaving irrational just because of "tradition". A full generation change is inherently consumer unfriendly and that is what people are currently defending against a hardware upgrade that has all the benefits of a generation change and none of its drawbacks.

Imagine Google releasing Google 2.0 and Android 2.0. They will drop all support for regular Google and android, never update it again. Then you have to register for all their new services which are basically the same but require new registration and do not import all your previous data you created or purchased. Also it will not run on old phones and tablets, you will have to buy a new one.

THAT. That is what people are currently defending. They defend it against a different system where you just buy a new phone and keep all your stuff and just benefit from the new hardware.

To the post above you obviously drank the kool-aid... 

That's not totally true. Neo wasn't announced at the start. It's the same with companies announcing a director's cut edition, 2 years later. How were we suppose to know about that? When a product is known. Take the Extended Edition of Lord Of The Rings, on BD. The threatical versions were released first. But since we knew the Extended ones for years. The Threatcial versions sold really bad. And forced the company to release the EE versions faster then they wanted. If I knew a newer version was gonna be made. I would of waited till now.

If this becomes a norm. I'll simply wait for a upgrade I deem worthly. Since now I know that 2-4 years, new update will be a normal occurance. It eventually goes back to roughly what we use to do. Anyone can say: "Well, I don't need this upgrade." And just wait 5 years. Skipping 1-2 upgrades. This works with phones. Because it's pratically a life requirement. VS consoles. Upgrading the hardware. Isn't just gonna increase the userbase of gaming. It will just make more people decide on when and how many times they get the revisions.

Now, people can say. "Each revision will include massive and impressive things!" That won't be the case, in say 20 years. What happens to consoles when major upgrades are done. And I mean, 8K gaming. And graphics that have improved so far, nothing looks better anymore. The companies will be stuck at what do.

You can only guarantee what software is already released on a platform and the promised software the developers will bring, nothing more ... 

Neither Sony or Nintendo expected to release new and updated platforms from the start since plans practically change a large part of the time ...