You get the fun of repurchasing the same game the next gen though..... I don't mess with virtual consoles, and I get Nintendo consoles day 1 due to backwards compatibility which I'm hoping NX keeps. Looking doubtful though, sadly.

As I posted in the MS forum

MS has several intriguing options for revisions and new consoles right now.

There are 3 reasonable options for a slim.
1. Die shrink with no changes and price drop to $249
2. Die shrink, turn on additional 2 CU, upgrade to faster DDR4 memory, and up the upclock 2.1 Ghz
a. This should be more than sufficient to have a slight performance edge on PS4 and have support a consistent 1080P at $279
3. Update GPU to Polaris 11 (20 CU), keep esRAM, 2.1 GHz system clock, and switch to GDDR5x at 320 GB/s
a. This would be substantially better than the PS4, capable of 1080p60 and 1440p30, $299
All of the slims should have a flash-based, digital only version for $50 cheaper

For XB2 there are lots of options, some of which depend on which version of the slim they use.
If they select 1 above, then it may be prudent to offer a Polaris 10 this year. If they go with 2, then they could offer a Polaris 10 or wait. If they go with 3, then they should likely wait for Vega and HBM2.
1. Polaris 10 at $399 this fall
a. 36 CU, 8GB GDDR5x at 320 GB/s, possibly esram if needed, 12-16 2.1 GHz jaguar, System clock at 1050 / 2100
i. Performance equivalent to 3.7 TF (36 CU at 800) X 1050 mhz / 800 mhz X 1.4 increase in IPS = ~ 6.7 TF (4.9) equivalents of existing console performance
ii. Maybe something like 12 jags for games and 4 jags plus 4 GB lpDDR4 for system
iii. 4K capable
2. Polaris 10 at $499 this fall
a. Same as above but up memory to 12GB @ 480 GB/s, up CU to 54, zen cores, ~ 10 TF equivalent
b. Crush 4K at 60 FPS
3. Wait for Vega next fall at $499
a. 16 GB HBM2, 72 CU, Zen, 12 TF actual, 16 TF GCN 1.1 equivalents

They consoles will absolutely be on 14 nm, so 4 times the density as 28 nm.  An APU with the same die area as XBONE1 would be able to put out the equivalent of > TF from today's GCN 1.1 consoles.

I think they should wait for Vega next fall. But even 8 TF would be enough. Just make the hardware upgradable this time. 

If it is 2017, it will be more like Vega at 12+ TF, which will be equivalent to 15+ TF from today's consoles.

They could do a 8 TF equivalent this fall with GDDR5x at $499

Do you know that there actually LAWS that limit how much power consoles can draw?

None of your ideas has any chance of becoming truw within the next year or two.

I agree. I think that they should take option 3 slim @ $299 this year to position it right between PS4 and PS4K and able to equal PS4K at 1080p60.  That would give them a machine that is the same price as the base PS4 with roughly 2+X the real world performance.

Then fall 2017 introduce a Vega monster at $499 capable of 4K 60 FPS and put the slim to $249, $199 for digital only version.

that is not true.  the laws state that there must be a low power idle mode.  This is no limit WRT max power draw.

All of those machines except the Vega model would come in under 200W.  Based on published results the 54 CU model would likely be in the neighborhood of 180 watts for the entire system.

AMD is demonstrating massive improvements in perf / watt.

They could start by selling half shares of RARE to Nintendo and all RARE comes come out on both their platforms (driving RARE profits, and therefore Microsofts). It's pretty evident that the biggest RARE fans are Nintendo gamers (except for the Kinect stuff).

Just like sony did the last gen,they're taking a beating.