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MICROSOFT FY16 Q3 RESULTS: Rev $20.5bn. Op Income $5.3bn. Net Profit $3.8bn

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binary solo said:
3sexty said:

There are no traps here - nor there should be. Either you talk about what's relevant in the context of the discussion thread or don't comment at all.  This is a discussion thread about Ms last quarter earnings (for the entire Business) not a game of words for enticing reactions from other posters.   Also, you seem to be making this to be all about Xbox earnings - I'm not clear.  Are you asking me the question?? Again this is a general thread about MS earnings and most of us have known for some time that MS have ceased releasing specific numbers in regards to console sales. You may not have known this and I guess you could be forgiven in that case :) 

Well Rol did post something relevant to the topic. Your response wasn't relevant to the topic, it was merely having a snipe at Rol.

Profitability of Xbox is important for Xbox longevity. There are plenty of people inside MS who think Xbox is a silly distraction from what MS should be doing, and the only way to prove those people wrong is for Xbox to profit. And as this site is what it is the performance of Xbox is of specific interest here. So MS only talking about Xbox revenue and not talking about Xbox profitability may imply Xbox is not contributing positively to the bottom line and thus this could harden the minds of those in MS who want the company to get out of consoles. Let us pretend that Xbox has not contrinbuted profit for this quarter, and let us assume this becomes a trend and in the next 2 annual results it shows Xbox has been an annual loss maker for 2 consequitive years. How much longer before the majority of voices that call the shots say it's game over, MS has tried to be viable in the console area for over 15 years and for most of that time it hasn't worked out it's time to pull the plug? If you can argue there is a strong strategic benefit for a loss making console to stick around, then you can fight a rearguard action. But there really isn't a strong strategic benefit for being in consoles, they are no longer any kind of front line in the tech wars. 

Rol's post to wich I repsonded read as follows:

'Meh... no numbers.

Makes it very boring to read through this thread'

I am struggling to see how this is relevant to anything in Kowen's thread. I do get that he may be implying that numbers would be useful but we all know that the provision of sales specific numbers had ceased some months ago.  so in that context, I'm sorry, the post does not add value.  My post simply highlights this fact.  Your second paragraph may have some relevance to the thread but indeed it serves more purpose as a stand-alone post rather than a personal response to myself.  This appears to be an attempt to digress from what my specific response was about.  Again, Rol’s post is no more relevant than mine when you consider, even in your own words that it was a ‘Trap’.  My post simply calls it out as not being very useful at all.



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jason1637 said:
Imaginedvl said:

Same here but they are always delivering, not worried at all :)

I'm looking forward for those 365 results. Microsoft is doing so well with this. Their transition to the cloud with Microsoft Office is flawless so far.
They are beating Google docs in enterprises by a miles and became the number one cloud application used by businesses in less than one year. Even beating Salesforce (which was the number one SaaS application used by businesses before that).

Their Cloud platform is also becoming so attractive. Azure is quite on par now with AWS. While Google is coming at them with the Cloud Compute and Cloud App. platforms they are still far behind the 2 behemots. Amazon will have the lead obviously with years of head start but Microsoft is a real challenger, just love it. (sidenote: Google cloud app. platform is quite cool for the devs of you who like to try new technologies for fun :))

google docs is a joke compared to office

Just a few years ago snarkey google fans were talking about how google docs were going to kill the Microsoft.

Congrats on increasing revenue and Xbox sales, again!



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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kowenicki said:
RolStoppable said:
Meh... no numbers.

Makes it very boring to read through this thread.

you've had that post typed out for hours waiting to hit submit havent you....

Burn the Witch!

Or at least make her wear an itchy sweater.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

CovenanterA13 said:
Naufraguito said:

If Gold subscriptions are up YoY compared to same quarter of 2015, but are down between quarters of 2016, of course there are up and downs in the number of gold suscribers. duh

 

The question will be if they keep dropping as 360 owners move to PS4 instead of Xone.

The subscriptions are up YoY, it doesn't matter if are down compared to last quarters, all bussines have fluctuations between quarters, specially consumer electronic and services.

The overall profit of division is up YoY, even with lower prices in hardware, it's all that matters. You don't give up with a division that is growing, they don't give up with Bing, they will not with gaming.



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Nautilus said:
hhehhe said:

they will always reveal some xbox numbers.
just not the numbers, consolewarrior want for theire fight. and that's a good thing. beside fanboys and pr statements, no1 cares about absolute unit sales numbers anymore in the industry. ea, activsion and ubisoft didn't stop to give out numbers because they were bad. they stopped, because it's not gen 6 anymore. selling a copy and be forgotten does not make you money in the long term.

Xbox hardware revenue decreased 9%, mainly due to a decline in Xbox 360 console volume. Xbox One revenue decreased slightly, due to higher console volume, offset by lower prices of consoles sold. 

they sold in more xbox ones q4cy2015 compared to holiday 2014
ms sold 6.6m xbox consoles in q4cy2014 (xbox one and 360 hardware)
my best guess: xbox one hardware units were up, but total xbox hardware units were slightly down

But I still would like some concrete numbers, not the "we are doing better than 1 year before".I mean, that would also be good, but the best is that if we know official concrete numbers.And I dont want those numbers just for some stupid fanboy or console war.I want to know it because I like to know how well the companies are doing, for better or for worse.This is one of the reasons that I(and many here I assume) came to the site in the first place:To know how well their beloved franchise/companies/consoles are doing.And nothing would satisfy me more than some numbers.Thats it.

I find quite astonishing that the first thing people thought about my comment was that I wanted the numbers was just to start some console wars nonsense

You maye have innocent intentions, but concrete numbers would only serve fans with the intention to puff their chest in victory. Not here, but Youtube, Gamespot, IGN, and various forums with a less.......pleasant crowd like here.

Concrete numbers literally benefit the haters more then people like you, which is unfortunate for you and me who just want some clarity.

But the general vibe is that they are doing fine enough on their own steam. Not crazy profits, and hopefully no big losses, but I imagine they are fine because of games like Minecraft.

Remeber, Minecraft sales (+ Story Mode version) on ANY platform go towards MS's gaming bottom line. Also Minecraft merchandise like Lego, plushies, handbooks, cloting, etc. Whatever MS gets a cut from goes towards Xbox bottom line. I do take a small pleasure in thinking Playstation gamers are literally funding Xbox in their own way ;)



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Kerotan said:
LurkerJ said:

by 2m? I think

Just making sure I'm reading this right. 

It dropped from the big holiday numbers. Totally normal. People registered but havent been online since.



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Naufraguito said:

If Gold subscriptions are up YoY compared to same quarter of 2015, but are down between quarters of 2016, of course there are up and downs in the number of gold suscribers. duh

MS doesn't give numbers for gold subs, only total active Xbox live users.



Teeqoz said:
Naufraguito said:

If Gold subscriptions are up YoY compared to same quarter of 2015, but are down between quarters of 2016, of course there are up and downs in the number of gold suscribers. duh

MS doesn't give numbers for gold subs, only total active Xbox live users.

Equally there's more people connected, gold or not, that in the same quarter last year. Of course there's less than in holiday season,  probably is the same every year, this is why almost every year take the same quarter of the last year to evaluate their results.



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Naufraguito said:
Teeqoz said:

MS doesn't give numbers for gold subs, only total active Xbox live users.

Equally there's more people connected, gold or not, that in the same quarter last year. Of course there's less than in holiday season,  probably is the same every year, this is why almost every year take the same quarter of the last year to evaluate their results.

Sure, I just see a lot of people mistaking the 46 million figure with Xbox Live subs, which isn't correct. They say in the report that it's up YoY, and imo YoY comparisons are what you should look at in a seasonal industry like the gaming industry. So that's good enough for me.



RolStoppable said:
kowenicki said:

In a weird way I actually baited him further up. 😊

Well, I consider our relationship healthy. We aren't jumping on each other to make mountains out of molehills. You already have enough of those guys.

yep.



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