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hershel_layton said:
                                        
(Just quoting you as you probably want to read this) 

 

Thank you. Finally someone that makes logical sense and capable of rational reasoning! I'm white and I never understood the hate towards the Muslim peoplw in the first place. Even more so when Christians talk hate about them. The reality is that there are Christian fundamentalist as well, remember the Crusades. Fuck... if those assholes still existed today, imagine what they would do with rifles and bombs.

Let's not forget that the Ku Klux Klan is a Christian organisation. That's as radical as they come. Yet most people don't even take this in consideration or as reality. I live in Edmonton Alberta. Back in Febuary we had a group going protest in Churchill Square promoting the idea that it is 100% okay to rape woman. They were advocating pro-rape. You can read about this here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/extreme-misogynistic-group-denounced-in-edmonton-1.3431916

"The founder of Return of Kings, a "neo-masculinist movement," Valizadeh's writings have suggested that sexual assault on private property be legalized, encourages men to pursue women with eating disorders and believes North American culture trains women to be "big-mouthed, rude, and disrespectful.""

In the end we have hate on both sides of the coin. One is far more advertised than the other, and both are very bad. Most people think that this whole terrorist stuff started around 9/11, but it really dates back to Baghdad with the bombings, and more things that I'm not going to mention to avoid a political debate. The worst of it is the fact that we created these terrorist organisation, this much people get right. We didn't do through some "conspiracy theory" we did it by bombing the fuck out of their countries. We created an enemy with nothing to lose. We killed their children, we killed their mothers and their fathers, we killed their brothers and sisters, we killed their aunts and uncles, their grandparents, friend's and cousins. In other words, we created an enemy that has nothing at all left to lose. They couldn't care less if they "die" after the feeling that they have nothing left to live for. Let's also not forget the whole Palestine and Israel issue that's been going on for far longer than most people realise.

I think it should also be pointed out that the Quran forbids suicide bombing or suicide in general, amogst other things ISIS has been doing. It bar's them from going to heaven. The OP is correct. Allah is just another name for god, and according to the Christian bible. Jerusalem is Jesus's home land. So technically speaking, we are killing  Jesus's people. This is a big no no for Christians. Both sides are being hypocritical, and if we are for a moment, to take religion for granted. Everyone who supports this war is going straight to hell. "Go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect your golden ticket to heaven."

The entire situation is absolutely fucked up from both sides of the equation. So no, I don't hate Muslims because not every single one of them is a radical. According to the math of the Muslim population, less that 1% of them are part of a terrorist organisation. LESS THAN 1%. Actually it's roughly 0.4% to be more concise. With that math, there are actually more Christian fundamentalist. So if we are taking things for granted. White people are the evil of this world :/ This is a royally fucked up concept. Didn't Jesus preach "Love your enemy's" or something like that? Shit... most of us are dumber than a doorknob.

I don't hate any race, nor am I afraid of any races. I'm 100% anti-raciest and cannot understand the concept behind it. Not even remotely. I can't even believe that this is even a thing take exists in peoples minds. We share this world and we are willingly, on our own terms, tearing it apart.


PS. Here's a very good song that people should listen to. It very much applies to the issues. Brilliant lyrics.




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hershel_layton said:

Get it together America. 

GET.

IT.

TOGETHER.

How about - Muslims, Arabs, GET IT TOGETHER. It's not America/Europe/India/China/Christian-parts-of-Africa that is the problem. It's the Muslim world and its antics that is the problem. Stop blaming others for the results of the actions by members of your group. Change the Muslims, change Islam and others will react to the change, nobody wants to be prejudiced against Arabs/Muslims just for the sake of it. Until that, until Muslims kill a Christian for his faith every 3 minutes, stop blaming us for being rational.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

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Are you sure you're not overreacting? Im not you so i dont know how exactly people were looking at you but I would probably give a quick glance over at anyone speaking a different language around me just because im not use to it.



White guilt is everywhere. But American's shouldn't fear arabs as long as they aren't as stupid as the Europeans in terms of integrating them. The Europeans on the other hand; well god help them! What they've done is set about the distruction of their society by allowing muslims to split off and take over chunks of their societies. But I don't want to go off-topic, so that's for a different time.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Excellent thread. I can only add that American Settlers were terrified by Native American language.



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Scisca said:

How about - Muslims, Arabs, GET IT TOGETHER. It's not America/Europe/India/China/Christian-parts-of-Africa that is the problem. It's the Muslim world and its antics that is the problem. Stop blaming others for the results of the actions by members of your group. Change the Muslims, change Islam and others will react to the change, nobody wants to be prejudiced against Arabs/Muslims just for the sake of it. Until that, until Muslims kill a Christian for his faith every 3 minutes, stop blaming us for being rational.

Not all Arabs are Muslim. Your comment is exactly what he's talking about. Americans who automatically associate Arabic with Muslims or terrorsists. 



Speaking in Arabic will get you a lot of sympathy in Australia. Any time there is an Islamic terrorist attack anywhere in the world, all you see in the news is people coming up with something new to support the Islamic community.

As for the language itself, personally, I do not find it pleasing to the ears.



KLXVER said:
Dunban67 said:

I m American and everytime I observe a person speaking Aribic, US citizens come running out offering, food, places to stay, family members, money etc to them-  They then compliment them on how beautiful the aribic language sounds and compliment them in geneneral-   so before you say something as ignorant as "get it together America"  why don t you check your facts  because I guarantee you all or even most of the counry does not act nervous when they hear Arabic

I always love the " i am being wrongly thought of" by an entire nation- 

But.....if you want to help convince those people who "seem to you nervous" when you speak Arabic, then consider finding a camera and a mic and condem Araic terrorist when they strike-   it would be great pr and it does not happen enough

You should grab a camera and condemn violence every time a white kid shoots up a school then.

yes because no one ever condems that?????  just the entire country as it should-    you might consider thinking before typing



snyps said:
Excellent thread. I can only add that American Settlers were terrified by Native American language.
                               

they were?  I  m sure no more so than indians were afraid of some of their neighboring tribes language or the various languages of colonist/settlers

FYI  there is not/was not   "A Native American language"   there were hundreds (probably more)  of Native American languages



Dunban67 said:
KLXVER said:

You should grab a camera and condemn violence every time a white kid shoots up a school then.

yes because no one ever condems that?????  just the entire country as it should-    you might consider thinking before typing

When a Christian terrorist shoot up or bombs in abortion clinic and when anti Muslim protesters carry guns to terrorise worshippers major news outlets like Fox and others like Glenn Beck Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones turn them into Heroes and martyrs for the Christian cause look up the term of the othering

Dunban67 said:
KLXVER said:

You should grab a camera and condemn violence every time a white kid shoots up a school then.

yes because no one ever condems that?????  just the entire country as it should-    you might consider thinking before typing