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Do you agree?

Yep 34 11.89%
 
Yes and no 20 6.99%
 
No 199 69.58%
 
Make America Dank Again 33 11.54%
 
Total:286

Theres no such thing as black or white skin colour



 

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MegaDrive08 said:
Theres no such thing as black or white skin colour

I rather people think like that but sadly, that way of thinking is far from being adopted. It will be hundreds if not thousands of years before people think anything close to that.



Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

Anyone can be discriminated against, but I think if most white people had to spend 3 months being black or Hispanic, it probably would be a fairly large shock to them (and I say that as someone who's not black or Hispanic).

We don't live in a post-racial, happy-mappy society, people still make a million assumptions about a person based on their skin color because it's so ingrained into us, it's probably a tribal mechanism. 

 Couldn't the same be said the other way around? I grow tired of this sort of way of thinking. There's a lot of hyperbole being generated to guilt trip people into pandering to one race over others. That in and of itself is discrimination. 

White and non-white can both face discrimination even in the same society, but they can't both face worse discrimination than the other set in the same society.  I think that is the shock Soundwave was referring to. 



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Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

 Couldn't the same be said the other way around? I grow tired of this sort of way of thinking. There's a lot of hyperbole being generated to guilt trip people into pandering to one race over others. That in and of itself is discrimination. 

White and non-white can both face discrimination even in the same society, but they can't both face worse discrimination than the other set in the same society.  I think that is the shock Soundwave was referring to. 

I get it. It's not a contest that requires knuckleheads to compete. Do they get a prize at the end of it? 



HylianYoshi said:
WTF does the poll even mean? Does a "yes" mean agreeing with you or is it agreeing with the "whites can't be discriminated against" thing?

I took a chance and voted no. I'm still not sure if that was affirming the question or not. Even after I read the post. So....

Yes, whites can be discriminated against ANYONE can discriminate against ANYONE.

No, I don't agree with the premise whites cannot be discriminated against.



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Lawlight said:
Acevil said:

Well a predominately tech company, would hire ... predominately STEM, individuals. Their main focus and product relates to STEM field. It is the argument I would use to say why Google has more males than females whenever someone cries sexism at tech companies.

I'd say they're predominantly an ads company. I can't find any data by department though.

Guess what?  The proportion of tech to non-tech can be deduced from the same chart, with the help of our friend algebra:

  • Overall % of males in Tech = 83%.
  • Overall % of males in non-Tech = 52%.
  • Overall % of males at Google = 70%.
Let T be the number of people in Tech, and N the number in Non-tech.  Also let T_M and N_M be the number of males in Tech and Non-tech, respectively.  Then the above three stats give:

  1. T_M = 0.83 T
  2. N_M = 0.52 N
  3. T_M + N_M = 0.7 (T + N)
Substituting 1) and 2) into 3) gives
0.83T + 0.52N = 0.7T + 0.7N which simplifies to 0.13T = 0.18N, or T = (18/13)N.
In other words, the ratio of Tech to Non-Tech is 18:13 so 58% of the company is Tech, and 42% of the company is Non-tech, so YES they are predominantly a tech company (but not by a huge margin).  If you want to get fancy this calculation can also be done with Bayesian statistics, but my point is that the answer is already secretly starting you in the face (obviously some rounding errors are inevitable since the statistics are only given to one percentage point of precision).


Aeolus451 said:
Final-Fan said:

White and non-white can both face discrimination even in the same society, but they can't both face worse discrimination than the other set in the same society.  I think that is the shock Soundwave was referring to. 

I get it. It's not a contest that requires knuckleheads to compete. Do they get a prize at the end of it? 

I don't even understand what you mean.  I guess the prize could be a cop pulling you over and searching your car when he statistically probably wouldn't have if you were a different color...



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Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

I get it. It's not a contest that requires knuckleheads to compete. Do they get a prize at the end of it? 

I don't even understand what you mean.  I guess the prize could be a cop pulling you over and searching your car when he statistically probably wouldn't have if you were a different color...

Oh don't me give me that shit. I'm tired of the sob stories People get pulled over for breaking traffic laws, driving suspiciously, being in suspicious area or being suspicious themselves. It's natural. I've been pulled over for all those things and been given tickets over stupid shit. If a cop pulls you over for whatever reason and he finds something to give a ticket over or arrest you for, he's doing his damn job. 



Well I think feeling guilty from what people of your skin color did is a small price to pay, considering that entire populations have been slaughtered, beaten, chained, raped, and discriminated against by countless generations of white people based off of nothing but the color of their skin.

But honestly there's no need to feel guilty or cry about it or try to skew the facts, just own it. Yes, if you're white in America you're more likely to earn a lot more money, be promoted, trusted, given second chances, etc. than you would if you were of a different race. Yes, there is institutional racism that favors whites in a huge way. And yes, there are people that are incredibly angry at these facts and for good reason. But instead of moping about it accept these realities and try to change the system for the betterment of your fellow countrymen.



 

tsogud said:

Well I think feeling guilty from what people of your skin color did is a small price to pay, considering that entire populations have been slaughtered, beaten, chained, raped, and discriminated against by countless generations of white people based off of nothing but the color of their skin.

But honestly there's no need to feel guilty or cry about it or try to skew the facts, just own it. Yes, if you're white in America you're more likely to earn a lot more money, be promoted, trusted, given second chances, etc. than you would if you were of a different race. Yes, there is institutional racism that favors whites in a huge way. And yes, there are people that are incredibly angry at these facts and for good reason. But instead of moping about it accept these realities and try to change the system for the betterment of your fellow countrymen.

Oh give me a break! White's are forced into this notion to feel sorry for actions commited 100s of years ago! I don't care what the british did in Africa 150 years ago! Today, we give more than enough to these people to repay what hapened then.



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