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Using Europe as an example is bad. I hate when white people act oblivious to the reality of white privilege both in the U.S specifically and accross the rest of the world. Have whites been victims?

Yes! By other whites who are more powerful or rich. No white person has been discriminated against for being white (skin). Jews xould pass as German or any other white person as there was no way to distinguish them outside of language or name.

Here are some facts. Other races have been victimized by whites. From Africans, to Asians, to Indians, to Native Americans and Australians.

Both the indigenous population of the Americas and Australia were basically exterminated by Caucasians so don't be surprised that none whites don't sympathize with the so called white struggle.

Even poor whites face better treatment than that of a rich none white person. Poor whites in the U.S. don't get abused by cops like minorities. There is no stereotype to describe whites like other races.

You have a team named Redskins but whiteskins would never be tolerated. The list just goes on and on. So the next time you even think of asking such an obvious question think about the facts I mentioned.

By the way. I am bi-racial and can pass for white but I don't ever mention my white heritage and don't care to know anything about it because slavery is the only reason I am here and why I have white ancestry.

Wh en you are refused a house because of your skin color then you can complain, if you were never allowed to vote, drink from a water fountain or refused service because of your white skin then complain.

If you are hung, beat or raised like livestock on a plantation because your white skin is hated, then and only then can you claim discrimination or victimization.


Your lack of reality and understanding is why people feel the way they do towards white people so remember that.



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RexSad said:
if you are hung, beat or raised like livestock on a plantation because your white skin is hated, then and only then can you claim discrimination or victimization.

Go on then, name a single person alive today who has been hung, beat or raised like livestock on a plantation because of the colour of their skin. You can't? Well I guess nobody can claim discrimination or victimisation then....



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Whites can and are discriminated against in todays society. If a company is trying to achieve a "equality" quota for minorities, then they are putting those minorities above whites, even if the whites are more qualified for the job. Racism also does exist against whites by select groups of people wanting whites out of leadership positions, not because of them doing bad things, but because of their skin color. Racial discrimination and racism are the same thing. No matter how much people try to change the definition of words, like racism (adding systems of oppressions to justify them being racist) and sexism, will not benefit society. The problem with today's society is that schools are purposely indoctrinating kids to believe that they are victims of oppression and won't achieve greatness. These teachers are racist because they believe that because of your skin color you will not be better than whites. This is oppression by our education. This is systematic oppression. Outside of education people don't care about your skin color, unless they are trying to fill a quota, then they are racist. People love to spin definitions to justify their racial hatred toward certain groups of people, especially radical groups like BLM. BLM is no different than the KKK, ideologically. BLM just behave as a victim and harass to get what they want, while the KKK did acts of violence or harassment.

I am not a big fan of social justice. It is the cancer of society currently, born out of political correctness and hate mob mentality. It should not be taught in lower education, K-12 because it is in essence an ideology based around hatred.



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RexSad said:

Using Europe as an example is bad. I hate when white people act oblivious to the reality of white privilege both in the U.S specifically and accross the rest of the world. Have whites been victims?

Yes! By other whites who are more powerful or rich. No white person has been discriminated against for being white (skin). Jews xould pass as German or any other white person as there was no way to distinguish them outside of language or name.

 

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1914&dat=20000802&id=nPVGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0fMMAAAAIBAJ&pg=2394,264655&hl=en

Goverment strips land from whites back in 2000 in Zimbabwe, which is 9% white and 79% African black.  Please explain to me how whites can't be victims of racism.



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Let's just say I love racing games followed by shooters and the Xbox One has filled this love.

Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

Oh don't me give me that shit. I'm tired of the sob stories People get pulled over for breaking traffic laws, driving suspiciously, being in suspicious area or being suspicious themselves. It's natural. I've been pulled over for all those things and been given tickets over stupid shit. If a cop pulls you over for whatever reason and he finds something to give a ticket over or arrest you for, he's doing his damn job. 

I like how you stumble from point to point without ever stopping to address the counterpoints.  To wit: 

—Do you agree or disagree that Shockwave probably intended to mean that the average white person, if living as the average black person for three months, might be shocked at being treated worse (instead of merely differently) if having to interact with police, buying property, etc.? 

—If you agree that that is what he meant, I reckon you would disagree with Shockwave's claim.  Right?  In that case, how do you explain reports of, for example, minorities in a large city being disproportionately pulled over and having their car searched even though the searches were less likely to pay off than when whites' cars were searched?  (Note1:  I forget what city exactly but it might have been St. Louis.  If you can treat it as a thought exercise then you won't need a source; if you need to get into the nitty gritty of the city's situation then I can find a source for my story.  Note2:  I think the payoff disparity is probably because whites' cars were searched in that city only when cops had a stronger reason to suspect it would pay off.) 

—What did you actually mean by "It's not a contest that requires knuckleheads to compete." in the context of talking about systemic discrimination?  I literally did not, and do not, understand what idea this sentence is supposed to convey to me. 

That first bit I won't take seriously because you know damn well that I understood what he meant and that I disagree with what he said.

Statistically speaking, certain races are commiting more crimes of certain types than other groups in major cities hence why they're being targeted by law enforcement over others. If they were just being targeted without being charged or convicted then it would be plainly a case of being wrongfully discriminated against. Of course, someone's race doesn't make them a criminal but certain types of crimes are commited by certain groups more than others. That's a fact but that information is used to help catch the persons responsible for the crime or at least help narrow down where to look or who pay more attention to. For example, the majority of serial killers are white males between certain ages. It would make sense for police and investigators to focus their efforts around that group over others.  Frankly, I don't believe that all discrimination is bad, some discrimination is needed for certain things.  

It's not a contest to see what group gets wrongfully discriminated against the most. There's no point in diving into that. We're better off dealing with wrongful discrimination in general and not just on one group's bit of wrongful discrimination. 



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Aeolus451 said:

That first bit I won't take seriously because you know damn well that I understood what he meant and that I disagree with what he said.

Statistically speaking, certain races are commiting more crimes of certain types than other groups in major cities hence why they're being targeted by law enforcement over others. If they were just being targeted without being charged or convicted then it would be plainly a case of being wrongfully discriminated against. Of course, someone's race doesn't make them a criminal but certain types of crimes are commited by certain groups more than others. That's a fact but that information is used to help catch the persons responsible for the crime or at least help narrow down where to look or who pay more attention to. For example, the majority of serial killers are white males between certain ages. It would make sense for police and investigators to focus their efforts around that group over others.  Frankly, I don't believe that all discrimination is bad, some discrimination is needed for certain things.  

It's not a contest to see what group gets wrongfully discriminated against the most. There's no point in diving into that. We're better off dealing with wrongful discrimination in general and not just on one group's bit of wrongful discrimination. 

1.  Then why did you say "Couldn't the same be said the other way around?" when that's clearly logically impossible? 

2.  But what kind of justifiable discrimination could explain why blacks would be subjected to car searches that aren't supported by evidence (as proven by the fact that they don't pay off as often)?  What crimes are you thinking about that blacks would do more often than whites and have evidence of in their cars? 

3.  I disagree with the idea that we can't do any fix of discrimination that doesn't fix all discrimination equally ... although I do appreciate the irony



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RexSad said:

Using Europe as an example is bad. I hate when white people act oblivious to the reality of white privilege both in the U.S specifically and accross the rest of the world. Have whites been victims?

Yes! By other whites who are more powerful or rich. No white person has been discriminated against for being white (skin). Jews xould pass as German or any other white person as there was no way to distinguish them outside of language or name.

Here are some facts. Other races have been victimized by whites. From Africans, to Asians, to Indians, to Native Americans and Australians.

Both the indigenous population of the Americas and Australia were basically exterminated by Caucasians so don't be surprised that none whites don't sympathize with the so called white struggle.

Even poor whites face better treatment than that of a rich none white person. Poor whites in the U.S. don't get abused by cops like minorities. There is no stereotype to describe whites like other races.

You have a team named Redskins but whiteskins would never be tolerated. The list just goes on and on. So the next time you even think of asking such an obvious question think about the facts I mentioned.

By the way. I am bi-racial and can pass for white but I don't ever mention my white heritage and don't care to know anything about it because slavery is the only reason I am here and why I have white ancestry.

Wh en you are refused a house because of your skin color then you can complain, if you were never allowed to vote, drink from a water fountain or refused service because of your white skin then complain.

If you are hung, beat or raised like livestock on a plantation because your white skin is hated, then and only then can you claim discrimination or victimization.

Your lack of reality and understanding is why people feel the way they do towards white people so remember that.

1.  So, all white people look alike?  That's not racist at all.  I'm pretty sure I can tell the average Irishman apart from the average Italian. 

2.  It looks like you believe that the pattern of victimization goes: 
More powerful whites -> other whites
Whites -> non-whites (not "none whites")
But where in this does it allow for the fact that not all white groups are perpetrators of racism?  For that matter, what about non-whites that are racist against other people, either white or non-white?  You appear to be claiming that nonwhite-on-white racism has never happened and can never happen in today's world, but this does not hold up to an examination of history.  The Japanese were super racist against many others, including whites, until it got beaten out of them in the second world war—if you think they aren't still racist, that is.  Admittedly, in the last few hundred years whites have been victimizers more than victimized, but that's more due to where the power has been rather than some ineluctable fact of how the world works. 

3.  Finally, there's the fact that not all racism is color-based.  I assure you that when the Nazis killed millions of Jews, Gypsies, Slavs etc. in concentration camps it was motivated by racism.  Ethnic cleansing in general is racially motivated. 

4.  I assume you ask whether a white person is descended from Holocaust survivors, and if they say yes you embrace them as a brother or sister in victimhood; and you ask whether a black person is descended from former slave-traders in Africa that sold blacks into slavery, and if so then you denounce them. 



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Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

That first bit I won't take seriously because you know damn well that I understood what he meant and that I disagree with what he said.

Statistically speaking, certain races are commiting more crimes of certain types than other groups in major cities hence why they're being targeted by law enforcement over others. If they were just being targeted without being charged or convicted then it would be plainly a case of being wrongfully discriminated against. Of course, someone's race doesn't make them a criminal but certain types of crimes are commited by certain groups more than others. That's a fact but that information is used to help catch the persons responsible for the crime or at least help narrow down where to look or who pay more attention to. For example, the majority of serial killers are white males between certain ages. It would make sense for police and investigators to focus their efforts around that group over others.  Frankly, I don't believe that all discrimination is bad, some discrimination is needed for certain things.  

It's not a contest to see what group gets wrongfully discriminated against the most. There's no point in diving into that. We're better off dealing with wrongful discrimination in general and not just on one group's bit of wrongful discrimination. 

1.  Then why did you say "Couldn't the same be said the other way around?" when that's clearly logically impossible? 

2.  But what kind of justifiable discrimination could explain why blacks would be subjected to car searches that aren't supported by evidence (as proven by the fact that they don't pay off as often)?  What crimes are you thinking about that blacks would do more often than whites and have evidence of in their cars? 

3.  I disagree with the idea that we can't do any fix of discrimination that doesn't fix all discrimination equally ... although I do appreciate the irony

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43 

table 43A shows total arrests for 2014 by race. Keep in mind that whites make up 62% of the US population. The percentage of crimes for each race often mirror the percentage of their population in the US except for a few cases. Asians make up 6% of the US population but they only commit 1% of all crime in the US in 2014. Blacks commited 27% of all crime in 2014 but yet they only make up 12% fo the population. They committed more murders and robberies than everyone else. You mentioned disproportionately, right?

Well, it seems blacks disproportionately commit more crimes than every other race in the US hence they're targeted by police. 

 



More then ever it seems to be the opposite. "White shaming" is more prominent then it ever was....I have no idea where you got he opposite impression.

Basically its where other ethnicities judge white people based on the past, even if the person in question did nothing wrong and is by all accounts a decent human being. It's an act of shaming to get "reparations" in some form or another, which is very manipulative. And if you call them out on that, your labelled as a bigot. Ive seen it happen and it's not right.

Basically, all races are not immune.



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