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Mummelmann said:
KungKras said:
Rape is really hard to prove. Her recording it is a really good thing because now the authorities can convict him.

And the whole putting it up on a live stream part? Is that also good?

Rape is fucked up for sure, but so is filming it and putting it on live stream for people to watch, the person who filmed should get some sort of reaction from the justice system as well.

obviously she is an accomplice and should be treated as such, but her recording is making the job for law enforcement that much easier and hopefully means this will be concluded quickly so that the victim can focus on recovering from this horrible experience (hopefully she gets all the help she needs) instead of being forced to explain the details over and over in a long drawn out process



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Lafiel said:
Mummelmann said:

And the whole putting it up on a live stream part? Is that also good?

Rape is fucked up for sure, but so is filming it and putting it on live stream for people to watch, the person who filmed should get some sort of reaction from the justice system as well.

obviously she is an accomplice and should be treated as such, but her recording is making the job for law enforcement that much easier and hopefully means this will be concluded quickly so that the victim can focus on recovering from this horrible experience (hopefully she gets all the help she needs) instead of being forced to explain the details over and over in a long drawn out process

That's a completely different phrase though, the one I quoted makes it sound like the person who filmed should be more or less ignored, or perhaps even thanked, for what she did.



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Mummelmann said:
Lafiel said:

obviously she is an accomplice and should be treated as such, but her recording is making the job for law enforcement that much easier and hopefully means this will be concluded quickly so that the victim can focus on recovering from this horrible experience (hopefully she gets all the help she needs) instead of being forced to explain the details over and over in a long drawn out process

That's a completely different phrase though, the one I quoted makes it sound like the person who filmed should be more or less ignored, or perhaps even thanked, for what she did.

hm I prefer to read it in the way that he ment that it's benifitting the investigation which he was very focussed on in his post

the recording/livestream itself is a further brutal abuse of the victim, as it's very possible this video is immortalised in the darkest corners of the internet and I can only hope she won't be confronted with it again (and can forget it's existance) outside of the investigation



Mummelmann said:
KungKras said:
Rape is really hard to prove. Her recording it is a really good thing because now the authorities can convict him.

And the whole putting it up on a live stream part? Is that also good?

Rape is fucked up for sure, but so is filming it and putting it on live stream for people to watch, the person who filmed should get some sort of reaction from the justice system as well.

I don't know her side of the story. Either she wasn't that into tech and just did whatever she could in order to record the video or she's a really bad person who wanted attention. I don't know.



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Lawlight said:
FallingTitan said:
3% of all rapes go punished in North America. Its a crime most people including judges dont give a shit about.

Do you have a source for this?

Is a completely discredited study by radical feminists with erroneously extrapolated data sufficient? Because that's where this 'statistic' is from.

They basically asked a bunch of female (and only female, of course) students if somebody has ever done anything to them sexually that they weren't fully into and when most of them inevitably said 'yes' (hell, I would say 'yes' to that and I don't exactly consider myself a rape survivor), they compared their figures with the amount of successful rape convictions.



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KungKras said:
Mummelmann said:

And the whole putting it up on a live stream part? Is that also good?

Rape is fucked up for sure, but so is filming it and putting it on live stream for people to watch, the person who filmed should get some sort of reaction from the justice system as well.

I don't know her side of the story. Either she wasn't that into tech and just did whatever she could in order to record the video or she's a really bad person who wanted attention. I don't know.

She's described as an accomplice in the article. All that aside; if she's holding her phone anyway, how about calling the police, or anyone in the world?

If we're to assume that she's innocent of anything, then we need to give the alledged rapist the same benefit of the doubt. After all, you and I haven't seen the video and heard his side of the story, right?

I agree that we don't know, I just reacted to your wording in your first post, it read as if you were actually giving praise to the girl for what she did and simply ignoring the possibility that she may well be an accomplice to a horrible, violent crime. That may not have been your intention and perhaps I simply misunderstood though.

People filming stuff, or generally not helping or doing anything really bothers me. Only last week, I stood up for an old lady at the subway station (Liljeholmen here in Stockholm) when a stocky, young man who was walking around blowing smoke in people's faces simply walked right into her so she almost fell over. He backed a couple of steps and screamed at her; "Hey, take it easy! Why the hell did you shove me?!"
Not a single person out of the at least fifty on the platform said or did anything, so I shouted; "You walked straight into her, you moron!" He turns towards me, some twenty yards away; "Shut up! She shoved me!" and I answered; "She was standing still, lay off." He muttered some choice words and stalked off towards the end of the platform and everyone looked at me as if I was the problem, and not a single person said "good job", gave me a thumbs up or even a nod, they clearly either didn't give a shit or were too cowardly to say or do anything, including acknowledging my actions, and it pissed me off.

The fantastic irony in this is that Swedish people pretend to have such great admiration and respect for so-called "civilkurage", but don't seem overly fond of actually practicing it.

So, people filming instead of helping (where it's possible, I'm not saying run into a burning building) is a symptom of our time, we remove ourselves from humanity by placing a lens and recording device between ourselves and things that happen in our world and to out fellow citizens.
With that in mind; I would never offer praise for this girl, even if she had 100% decent motives. Call the police, don't film an entire rape and stand idly by.

PS: The girl who filmed seems to have known the rapist, it is quite possible that this was some sort of setup. And if that's the case; I would most certainly judge the girl as much as the man (despite the fact that she's a girl).



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Mummelmann said:
KungKras said:

I don't know her side of the story. Either she wasn't that into tech and just did whatever she could in order to record the video or she's a really bad person who wanted attention. I don't know.

She's described as an accomplice in the article. All that aside; if she's holding her phone anyway, how about calling the police, or anyone in the world?

If we're to assume that she's innocent of anything, then we need to give the alledged rapist the same benefit of the doubt. After all, you and I haven't seen the video and heard his side of the story, right?

I agree that we don't know, I just reacted to your wording in your first post, it read as if you were actually giving praise to the girl for what she did and simply ignoring the possibility that she may well be an accomplice to a horrible, violent crime. That may not have been your intention and perhaps I simply misunderstood though.

People filming stuff, or generally not helping or doing anything really bothers me. Only last week, I stood up for an old lady at the subway station (Liljeholmen here in Stockholm) when a stocky, young man who was walking around blowing smoke in people's faces simply walked right into her so she almost fell over. He backed a couple of steps and screamed at her; "Hey, take it easy! Why the hell did you shove me?!"
Not a single person out of the at least fifty on the platform said or did anything, so I shouted; "You walked straight into her, you moron!" He turns towards me, some twenty yards away; "Shut up! She shoved me!" and I answered; "She was standing still, lay off." He muttered some choice words and stalked off towards the end of the platform and everyone looked at me as if I was the problem, and not a single person said "good job", gave me a thumbs up or even a nod, they clearly either didn't give a shit or were too cowardly to say or do anything, including acknowledging my actions, and it pissed me off.

The fantastic irony in this is that Swedish people pretend to have such great admiration and respect for so-called "civilkurage", but don't seem overly fond of actually practicing it.

So, people filming instead of helping (where it's possible, I'm not saying run into a burning building) is a symptom of our time, we remove ourselves from humanity by placing a lens and recording device between ourselves and things that happen in our world and to out fellow citizens.
With that in mind; I would never offer praise for this girl, even if she had 100% decent motives. Call the police, don't film an entire rape and stand idly by.

PS: The girl who filmed seems to have known the rapist, it is quite possible that this was some sort of setup. And if that's the case; I would most certainly judge the girl as much as the man (despite the fact that she's a girl).

I didn't read the article, so I missed the accomplice part.
Then it's pretty much settled. She's a horrible person all around.



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Airaku said:
hershel_layton said:
                                         

Sometimes these people need to see what their own hands created for themselves. 

 

Edit: If this is staged, then these people are disgusting. I hope this goes into their record to prevent any companies considering them in the future.

Using rape as a way to become famous is horrific. Taking a nightmare and attempting to gain some popularity off of it.

                               
I couldn't agree more. Not sure if I agree on them getting raped, but it's probably inevitable if they go to prison. After this, I doubt anyone would take them seriously if they were raped in jail. This thing is sick whether it's staged or not. For the friend's sake. I hope it was. That is a horrifying experience that no one deserves.

An eye-for-an-eye is not the best thing to do. When I said they need to see what they created themselves, I'm saying they should be punished as well. They don't need to be raped to see what they did was wrong. Giving them a long sentence(which would make them spend their adulthood in jail) would allow them to reflect and regret their decisions they made.



 

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Psychotic said:
Lawlight said:

Do you have a source for this?

Is a completely discredited study by radical feminists with erroneously extrapolated data sufficient? Because that's where this 'statistic' is from.

They basically asked a bunch of female (and only female, of course) students if somebody has ever done anything to them sexually that they weren't fully into and when most of them inevitably said 'yes' (hell, I would say 'yes' to that and I don't exactly consider myself a rape survivor), they compared their figures with the amount of successful rape convictions.

Most feminist statistics are false. Simple as that.



 

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