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Wright said:
reggin_bolas said:
gayrights movement is beyond outrageous. This violates the spirit of federalism and undermines the entire concept of democracy.

Nothing but a subversive stratagem to force tolerance and Marxist values.

 

This has nothing to do with Marxist values, nor it is a subversive stratagem to force tolerance. This is fighting againt an injustice.

You seem to have no idea what federalism is and how democracy works. These controversial laws have been enacted because the majority of people have voted for a legislative body that will represent them. Fighting them with various interstate bans and sanctions is to directly contradict the will of the people. Is that not a textbook definition of totalitarianism? 

If gay people don't like a certain law or state, they can always move to California and Oregon as prominent examples of gay safehavens. To where can Christians move if they wish to practice their religion? According to you activists, soon nowhere in the country.

 

 



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Normchacho said:
reggin_bolas said:
gayrights movement is beyond outrageous. This violates the spirit of federalism and undermines the entire concept of democracy.

Nothing but a subversive stratagem to force tolerance and Marxist values.

No, it perfectly embodies the concept of democracy. North Carolina made it's voice heard and passed this law, everyone else are making their voices heard and telling them their being ignorant dickholes.

What sanctions did Oregon face when enacting certains laws that were discriminatory againsts Christian practioneers? Where was the massive outcry? There was none. Gay rights is synonymous with atheism. There is an agenda. 

 

 

 



reggin_bolas said:

 

If gay people don't like a certain law or state, they can always move to California and Oregon as prominent examples of gay safehavens. To where can Christians move if they wish to practice their religion? According to you activists, soon nowhere in the country.

 

I didn't know Christians can't practice their religion in places where transgender people can go to public restrooms based on their chosen gender, not the one they were born with.



reggin_bolas said:
Normchacho said:

No, it perfectly embodies the concept of democracy. North Carolina made it's voice heard and passed this law, everyone else are making their voices heard and telling them their being ignorant dickholes.

What sanctions did Oregon face when enacting certains laws that were discriminatory againsts Christian practioneers? Where was the massive outcry? There was none. Gay rights is synonymous with atheism. There is an agenda. 

 

 

 

What laws did they pass that were discriminatory against Christians?

Don't blame gay rights activists for what is apparentley Christians inability, or unwillingness to stand up for one another.



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Normchacho said:
reggin_bolas said:

What sanctions did Oregon face when enacting certains laws that were discriminatory againsts Christian practioneers? Where was the massive outcry? There was none. Gay rights is synonymous with atheism. There is an agenda. 

 

 

 

What laws did they pass that were discriminatory against Christians?

Don't blame gay rights activists for what is apparentley Christians inability, or unwillingness to stand up for one another.

Civil rights laws in Oregon allow gays to sue Christian practioneers for astronomical sums if they decline to cater their business to events such as weddings. This is independent of any market analysis which would be a more rational middle-ground approach. It's an agenda-setting law; biased against religion.

The ironic thing is that the tolerance movement and the gay rights movement are self-serving. Just like the NAACP and many feminists lobbies. You advocate the rights of some, at the expense of others. 

 

 

 



reggin_bolas said:
gayrights movement is beyond outrageous. This violates the spirit of federalism and undermines the entire concept of democracy.

Nothing but a subversive stratagem to force tolerance and Marxist values.

So denying service to gay people for religious reason is noble and virtuous but denying porn for ideological reason is "beyond outrageous"?



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According Gallop. the American public estimates that over 20% of the US population is gay or lesbian. According to Gallop, it's estimated that only 3.8% actually identify as gay or lesbian. If we extrapolate to the world population, this figure is likely to remain as low or maybe even lower. So why on earth are we giving so much attention and why are we investing so many societal resources for such a small minority group? I mean, there are toilets now in Sweden that are specifically designed and built for transpeople, yet there aren't many people who are actually trans. 

And even Gallop agrees with my thesis:  "The overestimation may also reflect prominent media portrayals of gay characters on television and in movies, even as far back as 2002, and perhaps the high visibility of activists who have pushed gay causes, particularly legalizing same-sex marriage."

Is there an agenda to make gay and lesbian perceived as "cool" and normalized when it's statistically not? Is it ethical?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx





TruckOSaurus said:
reggin_bolas said:
gayrights movement is beyond outrageous. This violates the spirit of federalism and undermines the entire concept of democracy.

Nothing but a subversive stratagem to force tolerance and Marxist values.

So denying service to gay people for religious reason is noble and virtuous but denying porn for ideological reason is "beyond outrageous"?

I am making it about broader issues. The pornography example is just one countermeasure. Many other states are enforcing non-mandatory travel bans for their staff. Highly dubious tactic to undermine a democratic institution. Reminiscent of the pre-civil war era discord. 

 

 



reggin_bolas said:

According Gallop. the American public estimates that over 20% of the US population is gay or lesbian. According to Gallop, it's estimated that only 3.8% actually identify as gay or lesbian. If we extrapolate to the world population, this figure is likely to remain as low or maybe even lower. So why on earth are we giving so much attention and why are we investing so many societal resources for such a small minority group? I mean, there are toilets now in Sweden that are specifically designed and built for transpeople, yet there aren't many people who are actually trans. 

And even Gallop agrees with my thesis:  "The overestimation may also reflect prominent media portrayals of gay characters on television and in movies, even as far back as 2002, and perhaps the high visibility of activists who have pushed gay causes, particularly legalizing same-sex marriage."

Is there an agenda to make gay and lesbian perceived as "cool" and normalized when it's statistically not? Is it ethical?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx



So...we should ignore injustice if it only harms a small percentage of the population?



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