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Should pharmaceuticals be available to anyone?

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theprof00 said:
vivster said:

No, people are idiots. Healthcare should be available to everyone so that doctors can diagnose them properly and prescribe the drugs. It's not even about abusing them but the loads of people that will kill themselves because they have no idea how to diagnose correctly or do not care which dose to take.

Then again, we might be a lot better off with stupid people killing themselves. Soooo... hell yeah strong prescription drugs should be available to anyone!

well supposedly, in other countries antibiotics are available over the counter.

I think such a move would probably save people a lot of time and money.

The problem, especially with giving out antibiotics over the counter is that people will take it too often and not over long enough time periods.

This is a serious problem, as it breeds multiresistant bacteria cultures. This is a thing that is already happening because we feed antibiotics to our fatlings preemtively in order to save, you guessed it, time and money. These anti biotics get into the food chain with the meat as well. There's already several Antibiotics that have lost their effect almost completey because of over the counter antibiotics and animal antibiotics.

The problem is that Antibiotics are finite. We only know so many of them. If we reach the day when all our Antibiotics are failing we will be thrown back into the middle ages medicinally, because what it now a simple little infection, will kill you without them.

The Ideal procedure would actually be to test every singe patient for their specific gem stem and prescibe antibiotics based on that. The fact that your doctor actually tested you probably means that he is a very good, responsible Doctor. Way too many Doctors prescrible antibiotics too lightly.

Antibiotics are one of the most precious recurces we have right now, and saving you half an hour of your time and twenty bucks is not worth risking the health of millions, even if it might slightly inconvinience you right now.



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Mike321 said:
That's not a good idea, people already feel like then can go buy anything without seeing a doctor first giving them full access would make it worse.



Doctor Cat agrees



Not only would people hurt themselves (and possibly others), but it would lead to excessive use of antibiotics, which hurts everyone, because it increases chances that bacterial strains develop resistance. (Granted, the excessive use of antibiotics in agriculture is a much bigger contributor to the increasing amount of resistant bacterial straints.)



curl-6 said:

No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.

Holy fudge. How stupid are people? At least people should know that viral diseases can't be cured by antibiotics...

I mean, to use antibiotics for such an everyday disease is in itself idiotic, but do people not know that the common cold and the flu are caused by viruses so antibiotics will do jack shit to help them and will instead weaken their own immune system? SMFH



BraLoD said:



Doctor Cat agrees

 

I would legit trust my life to that doctor, seems competent enough (plus is super cute).



                                                                                     

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Teeqoz said:
curl-6 said:

No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.

Holy fudge. How stupid are people? At least people should know that viral diseases can't be cured by antibiotics...

I mean, to use antibiotics for such an everyday disease is in itself idiotic, but do people not know that the common cold and the flu are caused by viruses so antibiotics will do jack shit to help them and will instead weaken their own immune system? SMFH

People used to do it ALL THE TIME around here.
Now they can only get antibiotics with medical presciption, gladly.

A coff or a sniff meant people take an antibiotic, which not only didn't helped anything and meant spending money for nothing, but also people here use to stop taking them whenever they started to feel better, even if they had a medical schedule of how many times and days to take it, took 2 times and felt better? drop it.

People are far too stupid to have any kind of freedom to medicate themselves.



Teeqoz said:
curl-6 said:

No. Overuse of antibiotics is dangerous; it breeds resistant super-bacteria like MRSA.

Too many idiots already take antibiotics for the common cold or the flu.

Holy fudge. How stupid are people? At least people should know that viral diseases can't be cured by antibiotics...

I mean, to use antibiotics for such an everyday disease is in itself idiotic, but do people not know that the common cold and the flu are caused by viruses so antibiotics will do jack shit to help them and will instead weaken their own immune system? SMFH

Yeah, too many people use antibiotics not only irresponsibly, but uselessly. People are so impatient that instead of just waiting a few days for their body to kill the cold/flu on its own, their first reaction is to pump themselves full of medication. I don't mean to sound like one of those hippie types, but we don't need medicine for every little thing. It will be a scary day indeed when bacteria like Tuberculosis and Golden Staph become totally immune to all antibiotics. Hell, they are already well on their way, with multi-resistant strains popping up all over the world.



If I'm allowed to triage people based on whether they self medicate prior to granting them admission to my ER/hospital, then sure. Otherwise I'm not going to be held responsible for attempting to remedy large-scale government sanctioned self harm.

P.S. You think you have Strep, you don't know.



If you want to see what the idea your proposing looks like, look no further than the psychopharmaceutical industry where any half way competent person can get a prescription for a mood stabilizer, antidepressant, antipsychotic, and several other drugs with basically no effort. Shoot I know one guy who had a psychiatrist prescribe him a mood stabilizer just off hand after a passing mention that he had been anxious lately about his upcoming flight exam. What's the result? People popping psychotropic drugs like candy - drugs that can have lasting negative impact on your brain - who likely don't need any. And of course don't get me started on children with unthinking parents or worse orphans. In many foster homes psychotropic drugs are part and parcel. In these homes orphans can be on as many as 6 to 14 different psychotropic drugs at once. There are children leaving the foster system with permanent brain damage for goodness sake. That's what happens with minimal barrier to acquiring powerful drugs. And is why I disagree with both you and those insisting recreational drugs should be legal. People are stupid and irresponsible.



hsrob said:
If I'm allowed to triage people based on whether they self medicate prior to granting them admission to my ER/hospital, then sure. Otherwise I'm not going to be held responsible for attempting to remedy large-scale government sanctioned self harm.

P.S. You think you have Strep, you don't know.

I know what strep looks like, I get it every year. I know what it looks like, feels like, and tastes like.

I also don't need to ask myself if I'm allergic to medications, or test my own blood pressure, or make sure I have had mono.