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Ruler said:
Pemalite said:

He is saying "Full potential".

That isn't to say they don't see a benefit... But you will not get the most out of an SSD on the PS3 and PS4, because the interface that connects the drive to the machine... Isn't fast enough to keep up to an SSD.

For example... Sata 2 will max out at 300MB/s. SSD's can exceed 500MB/s on even mid-range drives, mechanical drives though should be fine, they usually top out at around 150MB/s in sustained.
The main advantage of an SSD though is those access times, that is where the real advantages come out.

Hes saying the same about a 10,000 mechanical drive which is BS. PS4 uses also usb 3.0 as the bus which will uttilize the sata 3 speed, thats why you cant plug in an external drive.

Even USB 3.0 will not be able to fully utilise a modern decently fast SSD. (As it tops out at only 625 MB/s, ignoring any other limitations in the chipset or such.)
You would need Super Speed USB/USB 3.1 Gen 2 with it's 1.25 GB/s.

Not being able to plug in a USB Hard Drive is a Sony Limitation, not a hardware one.



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Aeolus451 said:
sabvre42 said:

Because the indie hate is SOOO strong that any game that person isn't personally familiar with is considered indie.

That seems to be the case for most gamers. Thinking something is an indie just because it's not a halo or uncharted.

It's crazy to assume that ps plus subscribers would get 2 free AAA games every month for 12 months. It's no where near a realistic expectation. Just a few free AAA games by themselves would offset the cost of PS plus. Indies are the icing on the cake in my opinion. 

I know Zombi isn't indy. It's also not a good game. But it is a step in the right direction. Look at the number of absolutely crap games they're putting on PS+? Games that aren't even as good as games on mobile. I'm not expecting AAA games every month but we are at a point where we can see some titles available on PS+. Bound By Flame is a perfect candidate for a free PS+ games. It's a pretty good game that no one really played and PS+'ing it would give it more exposure. The reason we're not seeing more disc-based games comes out on PS+ is because everyone seems OK with all the indy nonsense and Sony is happy with that.



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FentonCrackshell said:
Aeolus451 said:

That seems to be the case for most gamers. Thinking something is an indie just because it's not a halo or uncharted.

It's crazy to assume that ps plus subscribers would get 2 free AAA games every month for 12 months. It's no where near a realistic expectation. Just a few free AAA games by themselves would offset the cost of PS plus. Indies are the icing on the cake in my opinion. 

I know Zombi isn't indy. It's also not a good game. But it is a step in the right direction. Look at the number of absolutely crap games they're putting on PS+? Games that aren't even as good as games on mobile. I'm not expecting AAA games every month but we are at a point where we can see some titles available on PS+. Bound By Flame is a perfect candidate for a free PS+ games. It's a pretty good game that no one really played and PS+'ing it would give it more exposure. The reason we're not seeing more disc-based games comes out on PS+ is because everyone seems OK with all the indy nonsense and Sony is happy with that.

 Online gaming + 2 free games (most of them will be indies) a month + discounts on psn store = one hell of a bargain. Those are the reasons why most of us are okay/happy with it. 



Aeolus451 said:
FentonCrackshell said:

I know Zombi isn't indy. It's also not a good game. But it is a step in the right direction. Look at the number of absolutely crap games they're putting on PS+? Games that aren't even as good as games on mobile. I'm not expecting AAA games every month but we are at a point where we can see some titles available on PS+. Bound By Flame is a perfect candidate for a free PS+ games. It's a pretty good game that no one really played and PS+'ing it would give it more exposure. The reason we're not seeing more disc-based games comes out on PS+ is because everyone seems OK with all the indy nonsense and Sony is happy with that.

 Online gaming + 2 free games (most of them will be indies) a month + discounts on psn store = one hell of a bargain. Those are the reasons why most of us are okay/happy with it. 

The deals are good. The games, not so much. There are better games on mobile. Minus the atrocious iAPs of course.



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FentonCrackshell said:
Aeolus451 said:

 Online gaming + 2 free games (most of them will be indies) a month + discounts on psn store = one hell of a bargain. Those are the reasons why most of us are okay/happy with it. 

The deals are good. The games, not so much. There are better games on mobile. Minus the atrocious iAPs of course.

The only reason people even have the right to complain is because PS+ launched and set too high of a standard for what we should expect with free games. At the end of the day though, PS+ is a one size fits all online pass. The free monthly games are just an incentive, the same as the flash sales. To "expect" AAA games is absurd. The only thing you should expect is online functionality and 6 games a month across the PlayStation ecosystem. The quality of those games is entirely subjective to the end user.