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To be fair, that's hardly bragging rights, PS4 and Xbox One have shitty CPUs.



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Soundwave said:
JRPGfan said:

Its nintendo.

The Wii U was the power of the PS3 & XB360.

The NX will be the power of the PS4 & XB1.

 

They are just a gen behinde in terms of performance.... its their thing.

It wont matter until the Playstation 5 & Xbox Two launch.

It will matter from day 1. No one gets excited for a system that's basically the same thing as something else that launched 3-4 years earlier?

Would you be excited about the smartphone that's as powerful as iPhone 5? Yeah it can run the same apps, but so what? 

This strategy only works if you have a groundbreaking, earth shattering, stop everything you have to try this type of other aspect to their hardware like the Wiimote was to the year 2006. 

PS4/XB1 is crap hardware by today's standards, even Sony is apparently making something double the PS4 for $400 in PS4K, you will have tablets as powerful as the XB1 at least quite soon

No it will not matter from day 1. As Nintendo does not have good third party support. Not that many will be excited about it IMO. Its not gonna have that big of effect on gamming markets and people are getting uppity over not much IMO. The gaming industry is really stable and not much has changed since the 90's in terms of major players, there has always been Sony and Nintendo and a third company. Sony does well in console relm while Nintendo does well in the handhelds and the third company tries to get market share.

What tablets have been announced that have 1.3+ terraflops of gpu performance and 8 core 1.6 ghz x86 class cpu performance. There are none. ARM cpus even at the same ghz and number of cores will have about 1/3 the performance of a similar x86/powerpc cpu.



elektranine said:
JRPGfan said:

Its nintendo.

The Wii U was the power of the PS3 & XB360.

The NX will be the power of the PS4 & XB1.

 

They are just a gen behinde in terms of performance.... its their thing.

It wont matter until the Playstation 5 & Xbox Two launch.

Completely wrong!

The Wii U came out 6 years later and had:

 

  • a slower cpu
  • slower ram
  • only a 50% more powerful GPU
NX will come out 3-4 years later and barring a complete shift in the way Nintendo operates not be that much different.

 

You forget that Wii U also had 4x more RAM.

At end Wii U has much better stronger GPU with twice amount of RAM than PS3/Xbox 360 but somehow slower CPU and RAM, so  Wii U have similar power like PS3/Xbox 360 and even slightly above.



If rumor of NX being ARM is true, this is expected. ARM is kicking ass. Problem is porting will be harder on this new architecture, unless they plan porting mobile games.

And the deal-breaker will be GPU, most precisely, PS4K GPU vs NX GPU. I would bet PS4K would win, since sony wants to leverage VR, which is very GPU demanding.



If it is noticeable, It isn't running on Jaguar or Puma. But 8350 is really wide margin to guess from eight 1.6x Jaguar cores...



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Turkish said:
Meelow said:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200144552&postcount=786

This user leaked information about the Wii specs and other things so he is reliable.

"'ve stated before and since any specs were revealed this gen most would have shitty cpus this turned out to be true, so to be fair my own perspective is skewed

amd 8350 stock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NX>>>>> X1 >> PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii U. All 3 of big 3 manufacturers got this issue wrong, yet I know next gen 2 of them won't cause they tend to do a decent job. Nintendo isn't impressinganyone."

He posted some other things too but mostly how he is disappointed with all 3 and he wanted at least mid tier PC, but regardless of that this is good news!

"Other devs can't say it so I fucking will go home nintendo. It's servicable at best and I know it for a fact this system is another good mid range pc if we had to compare to something not even a high end mid range pc"

This leaker realy doesnt have a lot of good things to say about the NX

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200140836&postcount=716

The guy seems a bit biased, by the way. I mean, he's expecting the NX to be a high end mid range PC power. Nobody is expecting that. And I prefer them to keep it cheap. Good mid range PC is enough, because Nintendo games are not that demanding, and if it has the same power as PS4/One, third parties could jump in the NX bandwagon (no excuses now because of console power). Also, the comment about the prize? What the hell? Nintendo is not precisely the company which makes the consoles pricier. WiiU, maybe, because of the Gamepad, which is rather expensive. Another guy implying Nintendo fans are "fanboys" and that we will bit it up for 400$. There's no way the console will cost more than 350 (my bet will be 300, but who knows). Unless Nintendo lost their minds. That's nice. Fuck off. Anybody expecting a one generational jump right now is a bit crazy. There's no point in doing that.



Sweet now lets see if NX games will noticeably be better than PS4/XB1 because that's the only thing that actually matters in this console war.

I find comparing specs between consoles to be such a minuscule debate where it really just comes down to the games. It's not like a huge gap compared to consoles vs PC.

...and being released 3yrs after their competitors the NX CPU better be more powerful lol



Fake as hell.



Volterra_90 said:
Turkish said:

"Other devs can't say it so I fucking will go home nintendo. It's servicable at best and I know it for a fact this system is another good mid range pc if we had to compare to something not even a high end mid range pc"

This leaker realy doesnt have a lot of good things to say about the NX

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200140836&postcount=716

The guy seems a bit biased, by the way. I mean, he's expecting the NX to be a high end mid range PC power. Nobody is expecting that. And I prefer them to keep it cheap. Good mid range PC is enough, because Nintendo games are not that demanding, and if it has the same power as PS4/One, third parties could jump in the NX bandwagon (no excuses now because of console power). Also, the comment about the prize? What the hell? Nintendo is not precisely the company which makes the consoles pricier. WiiU, maybe, because of the Gamepad, which is rather expensive. Another guy implying Nintendo fans are "fanboys" and that we will bit it up for 400$. There's no way the console will cost more than 350 (my bet will be 300, but who knows). Unless Nintendo lost their minds. That's nice. Fuck off. Anybody expecting a one generational jump right now is a bit crazy. There's no point in doing that.

Satoru Iwata himself said ones that the only reason what held back Nintendo Wii U was not the price, it was the less 3rd party support! And I agree with him, if people want something really bad than the price doesen't matter! Kid buy today 600 Dollar Smartphones or 500 Dollar Tablets, if they really want it they buy it. And thats the reason why Nintendo really should release a more powerfull console for 400 or even 500 Dollar. If it's a cool console with alot of power than people will buy it also for 1000 Dollar ;)



solidpumar said:

If rumor of NX being ARM is true, this is expected. ARM is kicking ass. Problem is porting will be harder on this new architecture, unless they plan porting mobile games.

And the deal-breaker will be GPU, most precisely, PS4K GPU vs NX GPU. I would bet PS4K would win, since sony wants to leverage VR, which is very GPU demanding.

Although I do think that Nintendo will use ARM for both the hand held and console, I think your comment on porting is inaccurate though. As long as ARM is supported by the majority of game engines out there (which it is). Porting games to the NX shouldn't be any harder than if the system was x86. What will actually help Nintendo is if the NX is easily more advanced than both the PS4&XbOne in technical specifications by a good margin. This would insure that NX versions of games could be ported without any issues and focus on optimization for the hardware.