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Wow I'm so surprised. Been saying from the start that the final game will be 900p and still have significant drops below 30fps. They just won't compromise their visuals, which isn't new.



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Qwark said:

Unacceptable garbage that's what I would call it. It has been development for 10 freaking years and framerate drops to 15 fps is downright terrible.

Platinum Demo, isn't a commum Demo, is a Demo  that does not is a part of the game, they took elements of the game, and made the Demo, so this does not means that the Game is optimized this way, Episode Duscae, was the Game's True Stage of performance, Platinum, is like a Mini Spin-off.



vivster said:
Wow I'm so surprised. Been saying from the start that the final game will be 900p and still have significant drops below 30fps. They just won't compromise their visuals, which isn't new.

It might not be new, but if we take the last few titles by them, The Final Fantasy XIII "series", the end result was solid pretty much the entire time.



naruball said:
Jesus Christ. Gamers and their exaggerations. It's like some people's scale goes: amazing, great, shit. There's decent, mediocre, ok, acceptable, could be better, etc. But no!!! If it ain't perfect it's garbage.

15 fps drops are garbage it's even below the cinematic experience. For me 30fps is the minimum anything that isn't stable 30fps for games is indeed crap in my eyes. A drop to 25 fps should be the absolute maximum. A drop to 15 fps is downright shameful, but apparently we need to defend these things according to you.

 

Even if it is a spin off, such practices should never be praised. As for my scale 60fps when stable great. 60-55fps good, 45-30fps fine, stable 30 reasonable, 30-25fps acceptable. Below that is unacceptable.



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Lafiel said:
Qwark said:

It still is the most recent demo so it should represent the latest build. Why would they use an older build for a new demo. For all we know the latest build runs like this the entire time and that's not remotely impressive. Well we shall see September the 30th, but I think the performance off this game might not be a smooth 30fps experience which should be the bare minimum.

this demo can't "represent the latest build", because it's content (apart from alot of the assets and stuff) is not in the final game

spending time on polishing the scenes of this demo takes time away from polishing up the full game, so I think they released it in a "just good enough" state

So what does it matters if the demo is not part of the final game? That's just a maketing decision. It was probably part of the game at some point. Regardless, It still uses the same engine and assets, and they surely polished things out as much as they could for the event. No one in their right mind wants to show an unpolished demo, might as well just show another part of the game if it has any more polish. If anything the demo might run better than the actual current build of the game as there probably was a lot of presure to work on the demo itself even beyond the rest of the game, given that it was the part that was going to shown.



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Hynad said:
vivster said:
Wow I'm so surprised. Been saying from the start that the final game will be 900p and still have significant drops below 30fps. They just won't compromise their visuals, which isn't new.

It might not be new, but if we take the last few titles by them, The Final Fantasy XIII "series", the end result was solid pretty much the entire time.

Nope. LR was a n absolute shitfest in frames. Had really trouble to enjoy it. It looks like I might sit this one out until the PC or  version or the PS4k arrives.



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vivster said:
Hynad said:

It might not be new, but if we take the last few titles by them, The Final Fantasy XIII "series", the end result was solid pretty much the entire time.

Nope. LR was a n absolute shitfest in frames. Had really trouble to enjoy it. It looks like I might sit this one out until the PC or  version or the PS4k arrives.

I didn't play LR. But I played the main title in the series, and most of XIII-2, both on the PS3, and the frame rate was good in both. The exception doesn't make the rule.



FunFan said:
Lafiel said:

this demo can't "represent the latest build", because it's content (apart from alot of the assets and stuff) is not in the final game

spending time on polishing the scenes of this demo takes time away from polishing up the full game, so I think they released it in a "just good enough" state

So what does it matters if the demo is not part of the final game? That's just a maketing decision. It was probably part of the game at some point. Regardless, It still uses the same engine and assets, and they surely polished things out as much as they could for the event. No one in their right mind wants to show an unpolished demo, might as well just show another part of the game if it has any more polish. If anything the demo might run better than the actual current build of the game as there probably was a lot of presure to work on the demo itself even beyond the rest of the game, given that it was the part that was going to shown.

 

Getting yourself informed goes a long way...


Hajime Tabata: "The demo was not intended to showcase the game’s frame rate, as it was more aimed to let players experience the world. Verifying how dynamic resolution worked was also the first priority as opposed to frame rate."

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=215391&page=1#2

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/04/02/final-fantasy-xv-director-addresses-demo-frame-rate-ps4xbox-one-differences-dlc-and-more/




naruball said:
FunFan said:

No one is saying its garbage. But it is definitely concerning.

Please don't speak for everyone. You may also want to read the very first reply of this thread.

Oops! Missed that comment. My bad.

But I still think everyone is just concerned. Passionately concerned.



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duscae > demo ??

someone please confirm



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