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This fucken sucks man...



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sabvre42 said:

Do any of you liberals even fucking read the article before calling racism? At no point did they have any evidence that it had anything to do with race.

That is the epitome of a click bait title.

There's no need to be so hostile. According to both articles, when the family was kicked off the plane there was no reason given other than a generic flight safety issue. After the whole incident is when United Airlines cited that it was an issue about child safety seats, which the family enquired before they were kicked off the plane. Whether or not the pilot had racist intentions is to be debated but UA did humiliate that family for no good reason.



Leadified said:
sabvre42 said:

Do any of you liberals even fucking read the article before calling racism? At no point did they have any evidence that it had anything to do with race.

That is the epitome of a click bait title.

There's no need to be so hostile. According to both articles, when the family was kicked off the plane there was no reason given other than a generic flight safety issue. After the whole incident is when United Airlines cited that it was an issue about child safety seats, which the family enquired before they were kicked off the plane. Whether or not the pilot had racist intentions is to be debated but UA did humiliate that family for no good reason.

And you have no evidence that the harness wasn't the reason, and especially no evidence that it would have been different wuth a white family.



lol, the truth is out there, I want to believe, I don't know what, X-FILES! or something



sabvre42 said:
Leadified said:

There's no need to be so hostile. According to both articles, when the family was kicked off the plane there was no reason given other than a generic flight safety issue. After the whole incident is when United Airlines cited that it was an issue about child safety seats, which the family enquired before they were kicked off the plane. Whether or not the pilot had racist intentions is to be debated but UA did humiliate that family for no good reason.

And you have no evidence that the harness wasn't the reason, and especially no evidence that it would have been different wuth a white family.

We do know that the airline had no problem making excuses long after the fact, but the pilot was unable to at the time of inquiry.

 

We also know that Islamophobia at the airline has had documented incidents before.

 

After a while, patterns can be recognized, and the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.  Pilot should have answered when he was asked---at this point it reeks of damage control.



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LurkerJ said:

Still better at those than your country will ever be.

LurkerJ said:

Let's not pretend the west claps for indiscrimination as hard as the people, where you live, do.

Man, I just love arguments like this. "Well, your country does it even more, so it's okay for my country to be like this as well!"

It's like people think you can't criticize something without being perfect yourself. Now, personally, I can't play the violin, but I can very easily tell when someone sucks at playing the violin. Does that mean I can't comment on when someone trying to play the violin does it horribly, just because I couldn't do better? Or that I can't criticize a game for being bad just because I can't develop a better game?



Teeqoz said:
LurkerJ said:

Still better at those than your country will ever be.

LurkerJ said:

Let's not pretend the west claps for indiscrimination as hard as the people, where you live, do.

Man, I just love arguments like this. "Well, your country does it even more, so it's okay for my country to be like this as well!"

It's like people think you can't criticize something without being perfect yourself. Now, personally, I can't play the violin, but I can very easily tell when someone sucks at playing the violin. Does that mean I can't comment on when someone trying to play the violin does it horribly, just because I couldn't do better? Or that I can't criticize a game for being bad just because I can't develop a better game?

I never said you couldn't criticize, but there is absolutely no need for overreaching statements. Dumb people will always defend dumb stuff, what does that change? nothing. This incident doesn't undermine the morality progress we've seen among Americans and elsewhere in the west. 



LurkerJ said:
Teeqoz said:

Man, I just love arguments like this. "Well, your country does it even more, so it's okay for my country to be like this as well!"

It's like people think you can't criticize something without being perfect yourself. Now, personally, I can't play the violin, but I can very easily tell when someone sucks at playing the violin. Does that mean I can't comment on when someone trying to play the violin does it horribly, just because I couldn't do better? Or that I can't criticize a game for being bad just because I can't develop a better game?

I never said you couldn't criticize, but there is absolutely no need for overreaching statements. Dumb people will always defend dumb stuff, what does that change? nothing. This incident doesn't undermine the morality progress we've seen among Americans and elsewhere in the west. 

No, it just shows we still have way to go.



sabvre42 said:
Leadified said:

There's no need to be so hostile. According to both articles, when the family was kicked off the plane there was no reason given other than a generic flight safety issue. After the whole incident is when United Airlines cited that it was an issue about child safety seats, which the family enquired before they were kicked off the plane. Whether or not the pilot had racist intentions is to be debated but UA did humiliate that family for no good reason.

And you have no evidence that the harness wasn't the reason, and especially no evidence that it would have been different wuth a white family.

So we should assume that apparently in USA nothing happens to you if your vehicle(s) do(es)n't comply with federal safety regulations as long as you're a rich airline.



sabvre42 said:
Leadified said:

There's no need to be so hostile. According to both articles, when the family was kicked off the plane there was no reason given other than a generic flight safety issue. After the whole incident is when United Airlines cited that it was an issue about child safety seats, which the family enquired before they were kicked off the plane. Whether or not the pilot had racist intentions is to be debated but UA did humiliate that family for no good reason.

And you have no evidence that the harness wasn't the reason, and especially no evidence that it would have been different wuth a white family.

The harness may have been the reason but that's besides the point. Point is that other than a "safety issue" they weren't notified why they were kicked off until after the event. The family said they weren't notified and the airline was quick to apologise for their actions, so they know they messed up. You seem to think that I am accusing the pilot of racism, which I am not but it still is a possibility which only investigation will determine.