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Mummelmann on 08 April 2016
Pavolink said:
Mummelmann said:
I found it to be somewhat okay, I still do, but nothing more than that. I guess my expectations were low to begin with, I never had much faith in Disney managing the license very well.

What's your opinion on the other 6 movies?

I love the old trilogy, it has aged surprisingly well with only image updates, it just holds a huge sense of wonder, rather than a huge sense of itself and its massive budget (which was largely the case with the second trilogy).

I did not like The Phantom Menace much at all, mostly due to JarJar and Jake Lloyd being utter shit, it felt like it was meant to be children's movie that tackled heavier subjects such as coup d'etat and betrayal, it's just a weird movie. Attack of the Clones was a lot better, Hayden Christensen is an abomination in it, but I can look past it since the movie itself is a lot better structured and a tad darker, more in line with the themes it presents.
Revenge of the Sith was quite good, Christensen was still terrible but the rest of the cast was rather good, the wrapped it up in a decent way, but unfortunately ruined a few parts of the original trilogy (mostly contextual, like Leia "barely remembering her mother", which is a strange thing to say for someone who lost her mother during their own birth).

The 7th installation simply tried too hard with humor and references, has a rather weak villain (imo, but I know a lot of people disagree), Ridley is far from a terrific actress and the story is half-part wishwash and the other half A New Hope all over again. It also uses some overly cheap writing tricks to cover certain segments (like Han and Chewie "happening upon" the Millennium Falcon in vast expanses of space). There's also huge chunks that are in direct conflict with the lore.



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FromDK on 09 April 2016
cutzman25 said:
hated it at first but now I absolutely love it!!!

As fare as I can see in theese post.. You are the only one like me.. :)



Soundwave on 09 April 2016
Norris2k said:

I was overall very disappointed. Even if a lot better than Episode I, it's bad enough to give it a whole new light... At least Lucas failed hard trying to do new things, like showing the political background, a new kind of duo (long time master/apprentice dynamic), a kid as a principal character, E.T. versus robots ground battle, pod racer, all on green screen scene and 3D characters (perhaps his biggest mistake), a complete new design for spaceships, etc.

Anyway the problem is not just directly that SW VII is mostly a remake of episode IV, it is that it lacks any magic. I mean the attack of the death star in episode IV was great because it was a first time, because there was this incredible presence of Darth Vader hunting down X-Wings, because of the come back of Han Solo, and last but not least, this "use the force, Luke", that what was great, being able to create a quasi religious atmosphere in the middle of an action scene in a Science Fiction movie.
With SW VII, you just get an upgrade focused entirely on the action itself. It's already hard to be enthusiastic about seeing the same scene 40 years later, but J.J. Abrams doesn't even try, it feels like he had this line in a checklist. Everything is the same, sometime bigger, but most of the time not as good. I mean, could someone argue that Kylo Ren is better than Darth Vader, Old Harrison Ford better than Obiwan Kenobi, Jakku better than Tatooine, that the design of spaceship is any better ?

The only very positive thing was that he at last went back to some realistic FX, real places, real actors. The attack of the stormtroopers, even if massively scaled down compared to episode II, looked really great and so much better. In term of artistic direction, compared to the new trilogy, it's was really the thing to do.

About plot holes, I don't really care. I think it's another way to say "I didn't like this movie". I mean if a movie is impressive, surprising, with great acting, dialogues, memorable scenes, a fantastic music, most people don't look at details. The problem with the light saber fight is that the dialogue, acting, action, the location, and mostly everything is uninspiring and boring. And OK, there is this plot hole, a trained jedi fights like an amateur.

Here's the thing about the OT ... I think the OT is just too hard to beat. It's simply too damn good. 

I'm not sure you can make a Star Wars story any better. 



Super_Boom on 09 April 2016

Well first off...I wouldn't call myself a Star Wars fan, but I did enjoy the original trilogy. So take my opinion as you will...whatever that means.

I've only watched the new movie once, and my opinion hasn't really changed. It had some annoying dialogue, some absurd plot devices, and the main girl was completely boring and uninteresting. Other than that though, it was entertaining enough...and I don't regret seeing it in the theater. I wouldn't be averse to watching it again on DVD or BR...but it's not a priority either.

Stand out for me was Finn's character. He definitely carried the movie for me...and I hope to see more of him.



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Norris2k on 10 April 2016
Soundwave said:
Norris2k said:

I was overall very disappointed. Even if a lot better than Episode I, it's bad enough to give it a whole new light... At least Lucas failed hard trying to do new things, like showing the political background, a new kind of duo (long time master/apprentice dynamic), a kid as a principal character, E.T. versus robots ground battle, pod racer, all on green screen scene and 3D characters (perhaps his biggest mistake), a complete new design for spaceships, etc.

Anyway the problem is not just directly that SW VII is mostly a remake of episode IV, it is that it lacks any magic. I mean the attack of the death star in episode IV was great because it was a first time, because there was this incredible presence of Darth Vader hunting down X-Wings, because of the come back of Han Solo, and last but not least, this "use the force, Luke", that what was great, being able to create a quasi religious atmosphere in the middle of an action scene in a Science Fiction movie.
With SW VII, you just get an upgrade focused entirely on the action itself. It's already hard to be enthusiastic about seeing the same scene 40 years later, but J.J. Abrams doesn't even try, it feels like he had this line in a checklist. Everything is the same, sometime bigger, but most of the time not as good. I mean, could someone argue that Kylo Ren is better than Darth Vader, Old Harrison Ford better than Obiwan Kenobi, Jakku better than Tatooine, that the design of spaceship is any better ?

The only very positive thing was that he at last went back to some realistic FX, real places, real actors. The attack of the stormtroopers, even if massively scaled down compared to episode II, looked really great and so much better. In term of artistic direction, compared to the new trilogy, it's was really the thing to do.

About plot holes, I don't really care. I think it's another way to say "I didn't like this movie". I mean if a movie is impressive, surprising, with great acting, dialogues, memorable scenes, a fantastic music, most people don't look at details. The problem with the light saber fight is that the dialogue, acting, action, the location, and mostly everything is uninspiring and boring. And OK, there is this plot hole, a trained jedi fights like an amateur.

Here's the thing about the OT ... I think the OT is just too hard to beat. It's simply too damn good. 

I'm not sure you can make a Star Wars story any better. 

I agree on that, but half as good would be good enough for me !