BTW, bought the movie on Youtube on stream a week ago and still can't see. Fix it now.

Am not a Star Wars fan. I was quite negative towards this new one just based on the internet mindshare it was capturing. I went to see it 2-3 weeks ago and quite enjoyed it. Heck the 3D thing was done pretty well (was the only version playing nearby).

So i liked it as an action, space ish movie where the force awakens or something. Don't really care about how good of a Star Wars movie it was or not.

Edit: Also loved the cute little robot. Kylo Ren though is just like another one of us whiny millennials. Would fit on the forums well. 

Great movie them, still a great movie now. Has problems like every Star Wars movie ever but its super fun.

my big problem was the price. i paid 13.50 for a ticket. + my wife + popcorn i was at 35€. for titanic i paid abt 8€. i never found a good inflation adjusted number...and the-numbers.com seems to miscalculate this fact.

anyway, i think it is boring, and the bluray costs 19.99...

i watched it once in cinema, and i will wait for the disc a bit. no need to blow so much money up theirs...

I was overall very disappointed. Even if a lot better than Episode I, it's bad enough to give it a whole new light... At least Lucas failed hard trying to do new things, like showing the political background, a new kind of duo (long time master/apprentice dynamic), a kid as a principal character, E.T. versus robots ground battle, pod racer, all on green screen scene and 3D characters (perhaps his biggest mistake), a complete new design for spaceships, etc.

Anyway the problem is not just directly that SW VII is mostly a remake of episode IV, it is that it lacks any magic. I mean the attack of the death star in episode IV was great because it was a first time, because there was this incredible presence of Darth Vader hunting down X-Wings, because of the come back of Han Solo, and last but not least, this "use the force, Luke", that what was great, being able to create a quasi religious atmosphere in the middle of an action scene in a Science Fiction movie.
With SW VII, you just get an upgrade focused entirely on the action itself. It's already hard to be enthusiastic about seeing the same scene 40 years later, but J.J. Abrams doesn't even try, it feels like he had this line in a checklist. Everything is the same, sometime bigger, but most of the time not as good. I mean, could someone argue that Kylo Ren is better than Darth Vader, Old Harrison Ford better than Obiwan Kenobi, Jakku better than Tatooine, that the design of spaceship is any better ?

The only very positive thing was that he at last went back to some realistic FX, real places, real actors. The attack of the stormtroopers, even if massively scaled down compared to episode II, looked really great and so much better. In term of artistic direction, compared to the new trilogy, it's was really the thing to do.

About plot holes, I don't really care. I think it's another way to say "I didn't like this movie". I mean if a movie is impressive, surprising, with great acting, dialogues, memorable scenes, a fantastic music, most people don't look at details. The problem with the light saber fight is that the dialogue, acting, action, the location, and mostly everything is uninspiring and boring. And OK, there is this plot hole, a trained jedi fights like an amateur.

I found it to be somewhat okay, I still do, but nothing more than that. I guess my expectations were low to begin with, I never had much faith in Disney managing the license very well.

hated it at first but now I absolutely love it!!!

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I liked The Force Awakens. I like BvS less with each passing day. DC animated movies do far more with 90 minutes than BvS did with 150 minutes. Well at least I got to see Batfleck go Arkham City on some fools.

I'm thinking about the movie a lot and it's not getting any better:

- basically a remake of Episode IV
- The villains were hilariously bad. Ugly emo kid, CGI Voldemort and 60 seconds screentime Phasma
- locations were dull, they had absolutely no Star Wars feeling. Every scene could've played on Earth
- another Death Star...
- hilariously overpowered weapon that can shoot at least 3 energy projectiles in one shot that are then able to split from the rest and fly to their target as if they were programmed... You see it doesn't make any sense.
- Rey is god
- female Yoda that is even uglier than him and terribly boring
- I could see it in Harrison Ford's eyes that he wanted to get out of this new trilogy as fast as possible. I'm glad for him.

that's not all but I don't want to waste any more time thinking about this movie right now.

Overall it's just a very flawed movie that is completely unoriginal. Sure the prequels had a lot of problems as well, but at least they had some new ideas.

What's your opinion on the other 6 movies?