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Sprash said:

Is there a source? you posted the source for the 125 million but not for the 180-200 million active user?

playstation is also interesting with more than 110 million user, accounts (2013)

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/07/03/psn-passes-110-million-accounts-sony-pictures-developing-exclusive-original-tv-style-programming-for-psn-timed-exclusives/

No source yet because 125 million was the last annoucement, but you can do the math, right?

125 million + (11 months x5 million per month) = 180 million steam users

Also your article says total amount of accounts, not active accounts.

There are propably easy over 1 billion Steam acccounts that are either unactive/banned etc.



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Na I'll stick with my physical games. 



KingdomHeartsFan said:

Na I'll stick with my physical games. 

What does that have to do with PC?

Also I thought you had a PC based on your signature?



Zkuq said:
Ruler said:

1. I don't think so, but please do point out my exaggerations. I did my best to avoid them but I'm sorry if I did exaggerate somewhere. You however did exaggerate about the upgrade needs with PCs.

2. I'm expecting games to perform better on the new model, in which case even if games work on both models, they'll perform worse on the old model. Effectively, in this case it's likely the old model is going to have games that perform worse than before. In practice I'm expecting to see more 30 FPS games than before, with 60 FPS versions being on the new model. Thus, less performane on the old model while the new model is going to cost more. It's not all black and white but this is an effect I'm expecting to see to an extent.

3. You talked about monthly upgrades. If you need to upgrade monthly, you're either doing it wrong or have too much money that you want to spend on upgrades. I didn't put a single word in your mouth, I just responded to your argument about there being so many upgrades on PC. I have nothing against choice.

4. I have no idea how this is relevant to anything, but OK. Good for you. In case you were wondering why I wrote that, I wrote it to back my claim that you don't need very many upgrades on PC.

5. I'm definitely not a fan of digital. I'd go back to physical any day if it digital wasn't so cheap (and if physical on PC didn't practically mean digital). On consoles, I still buy mainly physical just because I prefer it. Both have their benefits and it depends on you which one has better benefits. There's no objective truth about which one is better. And as for those other advantages, I did say they exist. I never claimed otherwise. I just said the gap becoming narrower. For example, controller support for new PC games is extremely common, especially in the case of games released on consoles as well. Not sure what you mean with your multiplayer point though.

6. I was looking at two specific advantages consoles had over PC, not all of them. You have a point but I don't think it's relevant in this discussion. It would be if we were trying to compare PC and consoles more comprehensively but last I checked, I never ventured there. And just for the record, both PC and consoles still have advantages over each other.

7. You don't need the most expensive graphics cards to have great performance on PC... Bad example. And your new PS4 model too is going to cost money. In fact, if you have the older model and want the new one too, the total cost will probably get pretty close to the cost of a gaming PC.

8. As I said, if you have the old model and want the new one too, the cost is going to be relatively close to a gaming PC. If you don't have a PS4 yet, you'll certainly save some money, but you'll also have been missing out on PS4 games for a while, and if you decide to get the cheaper model, you'll also miss out on better performance.

9. That'll be a shorter lifespan than before, and there's a reason it's being talked about as PS4K or PS4.5 instead of PS5. The situation is more confusing than when a new generation comes out, and there might not be as strong guarantees about compatibility as there were before. And what about the next model? Will it have the same compatibility? When will it come out? It'll be more unpredictable unless Sony has a policy about compatibility and the release cycle of new models.

10. Exactly! If you have to worry about things like upgrading, it's already much closer to PC gaming than before! That was the whole point... One advantage consoles had was that you didn't ever have to worry about upgrading until the next generation. Now, that's changing. And I have no idea why you had to mention that the world isn't all about me. I'm pretty sure I just pointed out a few problems with your claims. I even admitted consoles might still be the better choice for you! In my opinion, you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension because most of what you said either ignored my point, instead focusing on single words and sentences, or was irrelevant in the context of what I said. Yes, consoles still have some advantages. Yes, consoles lost some advantages. And yes, the new model can also be seen as an advantage. How it all sums up is up to you.

1. just compare my first comment and your size of text as reply

2. This is the case allready with PS4 over PC where PC runs at 60fps. All what Sony does is making the PC option irrelevant as a current PS4 owner

3. I talked about options not decisions all along.

5. You can use a controller for MP but you will get your ass kicked by Mouse and Keyboard player.

6. Its relevant because this entire thread is about PC vs Console. You cant use one argument against console and then take a blind eye if the same argument implies to PC

7. Not really, Sony wont try to make money with Hardware but software. If you trade in your old PS4 you will be able to buy this new old for less than a decent graphics card on PC.

8. Yeah but your games arent stuck on the old model, you will be able to upgrade and your games will be upgraded along with it. Its not what we have now with all these remasters. Having this new model as an option will save money in the long run because you wouldnt need to buy any new PS4 remaster on PS5.

9. PS4 > PS4K > PS5 > PS5K

10. You still dont have build your own PlayStation this is the difference. The upgrade is just as much of an upgrade like from PS3 to PS4 you just buy a new console. But unlike buying an entire new console the games will be compatible, its the best of both world if you think about it.



MortienGerrux said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Na I'll stick with my physical games. 

What does that have to do with PC?

Also I thought you had a PC based on your signature?

I do use PC, but its not my primary source of playing my multiplats, which is obviouly what this thread is about.  I don't think the OP is talking about switching to PC to only play Lol and Hearthstone.  And it has everythng to do with PC since physical versions of PC games aren't exactly abundant and some of the ones that are just include keys, just a fake physical edition. 



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Thats exactly what they are, RUMOURS....

sigh...



Predicted 15+ million lifetime-sales for God of War:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=234612&page=1

KingdomHeartsFan said:
MortienGerrux said:

What does that have to do with PC?

Also I thought you had a PC based on your signature?

I do use PC, but its not my primary source of playing my multiplats, which is obviouly what this thread is about.  I don't think the OP is talking about switching to PC to only play Lol and Hearthstone.  And it has everythng to do with PC since physical versions of PC games aren't exactly abundant and some of the ones that are just include keys, just a fake physical edition. 

Stereotyping much? PC has more then LoL and Hearthstone. It had the best lineup of games in 2015 of any platform.

Why would you want to play a multi-platform single-player game like Fallout 4 on consoles instead of PC that you already own, is beyond me.

Also physical media in 2016? When you can download big games like GTA 5 or Fallout 4 in 15-20 minutes?



Should not wait for Pascal?






MortienGerrux said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

I do use PC, but its not my primary source of playing my multiplats, which is obviouly what this thread is about.  I don't think the OP is talking about switching to PC to only play Lol and Hearthstone.  And it has everythng to do with PC since physical versions of PC games aren't exactly abundant and some of the ones that are just include keys, just a fake physical edition. 

Stereotyping much? PC has more then LoL and Hearthstone. It had the best lineup of games in 2015 of any platform.

Why would you want to play a multi-platform single-player game like Fallout 4 on consoles instead of PC that you already own, is beyond me.

Also physical media in 2016? When you can download big games like GTA 5 or Fallout 4 in 15-20 minutes?

How am I stereotyping, that's what I play on PC, stop being so defensive...Also how fast you can download a game is irrelavent, I can't download it that fast and I have a 150GB data cap. 



KingdomHeartsFan said:
MortienGerrux said:

Stereotyping much? PC has more then LoL and Hearthstone. It had the best lineup of games in 2015 of any platform.

Why would you want to play a multi-platform single-player game like Fallout 4 on consoles instead of PC that you already own, is beyond me.

Also physical media in 2016? When you can download big games like GTA 5 or Fallout 4 in 15-20 minutes?

How am I stereotyping, that's what I play on PC, stop being so defensive...Also how fast you can download a game is irrelavent, I can't download it that fast and I have a 150GB data cap. 

Well, the biggest game have phyisical copies. But a game like Ark Survival Evolved of course doesn't have physical yet, neither does it on the Xbox One.