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Forums - Sony Discussion - Rumor: New PS4k/PS4.5 leak via NeoGAF - GPU twice as powerful, dev kits already in developers' hands, $399-$499

jason1637 on 30 March 2016

Im a fan of this as i dont own a ps4 and would get one in the future but i can understand why ps4 owners are mad.



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Aerys on 30 March 2016

Unfortunately, the New 3DS shows i'm right, some games like Zelda Hyrule Warrior are technically better on new 3DS and really bad to play on old one, and that's only with a relatively small hardware difference, so what would happen with a big hardware difference between 2 PS4 ?

It would be really bad for old PS4 owners, they would care less and less to make technically decent games with a decent framerate. So it would force us to upgrade anyway.

So new owners would be very happy of course ( even if they shouldnt support this model of buying a new more powerful model) but old ones would be left to trash.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Ruler on 30 March 2016
Aerys said:
poklane said:

Exactly. As long as all games still release and look and run fine on my PS4 I don't see the problem with the PS4K from a PS4 owner's perspective

Yeah, if media are gonna talk about the PS4k and PS4 like that Sony has a lot of problems.

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...

Do you realize that these consoles have basiclay PC architecture now? They were maxed out right at launch, there was no hidden CELLL architecture behind them to be mastered. If you want to last this Generation 8 years long you need  stronger models.

Aerys said:
Unless they offer to take our current PS4 and buy the new one for not more than 100 euros, they could go fuck themselves if that's true.

The problem is the media and too many stupid gamers, the 32x was in fact 150$ and people rediculated it because of the way it looked attached to the megadrive. 

If you wan to save money as an existent PS4 owner simple sell your older console



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(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

Aerys on 30 March 2016
Ruler said:
Aerys said:

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...

Do you realize that these consoles have basiclay PC architecture now? They were maxed out right at launch, there was no hidden CELLL architecture behind them to be mastered. If you want to last this Gen 8 years long you need a stronger models.

Aerys said:
Unless they offer to take our current PS4 and buy the new one for not more than 100 euros, they could go fuck themselves if that's true.

The problem is the media and too many stupid gamers, the 32x was in fact 150$ and people rediculated it because of the way it looked attached to the megadrive. 

If you wan to save money as an existent PS4 owner simple sell your older console

That doesnt change the fact you can optimise a game for a specific hardware, X360 was also a PC architecture, it didnt stop it to see an evolution in it's game during the generation, less energy will be put into that with a more powerful model.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Swordmasterman on 30 March 2016
poklane said:

Related info from a meeting we had yesterday was waiting for it to be approved before posting.


Price is currently $399.99 they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99 we were guaranteed the price will be no higher than $499.99 (He mentioned the CPU upgrade quite a bit almost as if they haven't really decided on a final spec could be a pricing issue.) also there is currently no plan for any type of trade in program for current PS4 users but that could change.

They stated that the GPU is twice as powerful as standard PS4 and much faster. They did not say exactly how fast but that is was running at a higher clock speed while being much smaller than the original.

It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.

Also there was talk of some sort of VR lounge for the media player app which is supposed to be getting a substantial upgrade.

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

It was also made very clear that current games would not be getting any type of performance upgrades by being played on the system and any benefits to older games would come via patch per game and per developer. When asked if this was going to happen the response was "Its a possibility but doubtful with the exception of a handful of games."
We were also given a list of games that will be available at launch that will directly take advantage of the PS4K where the differences are and I will quote him "Significant."
For the PSVR
Eve Valkyrie
Robinson
GT Sport
For the PS4K
Deep Down (Thought this was dead)
GOW4 (This was the exact abbreviation on the sheet I can only assume its god of war 4)
There were more games on the list but these are the ones that stood out to me.



That's all I can remember off the top of my head I'll see if I can get any more information.

Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462

So was just the Abbreviation of GOW4 ?, i think that this is a 1TH April Joke, that Sony, will Launch PS4.5, and that Gears of War 4, will launch for PS4.5.



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Swordmasterman on 30 March 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
sully1311 said:
Anyone else thinking this 'Is'  the biggest mistake Sony have ever made with the PS brand?

Now I agree.

Now i Agree.



Teeqoz on 30 March 2016
sully1311 said:
Anyone else thinking this is going to be the biggest mistake Sony have ever made with the PS brand?

No way it can beat the PS3 for that title



sabvre42 on 30 March 2016

There's a chance the ps4.5 could brute force ps3 Bc. Would all you haters still spazz if this version had full ps3 bc?



Swordmasterman on 30 March 2016

Maybe the PS4K, can be Sony's TV, to sell Alongside PS4, a New Model of 4K Tvs from Sony.



baloofarsan on 30 March 2016

Black Friday 2015 - PS4 Basic + Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection set for $299 !
Black Friday 2016 - PS4 Basic + Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End bundle for $199 ?