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dongo8 said:
Hey, I am pleasantly surprised the NX is going to be more powerful than the other two systems. Didn't know if it was going to happen, this is one rumor that I believe though, so I'm happy. I know it may be a safe assumption, but I never assume anything with Nintendo, they always change things up and go in a direction no one expects.

The Wii U is more powerful than the ps360, just saying. Even without the "technically".



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JEMC said:
2Quick said:

I'm just trying to collect them all.  There seems like there are already a lot of places to post NX rumors.  it could be a cool place to discuss them in context of one another, though.  

Having a place to talk about all the rumors would be very useful, but managing to do that will be a very hard task. Good luck.

Yeah, I feel like that would be biting off a bit more than I can chew.



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dongo8 said:
Hey, I am pleasantly surprised the NX is going to be more powerful than the other two systems. Didn't know if it was going to happen, this is one rumor that I believe though, so I'm happy. I know it may be a safe assumption, but I never assume anything with Nintendo, they always change things up and go in a direction no one expects.

watch it be less powerful than the ps4.5



Wii U mini is sourced? By who?

Great idea for thread, by the way.



I'm honestly trying to figure out how this isn't Wii U 2.0..... Gamepad will have scroll wheels for shoulder buttons... That's about it...



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There was a rumor about an NX handheld, that had performance closest to XB1, but that it could stream gameplay or act as a source that streams footage to your TV through a wireless HDMI dongle.

Sounds pretty legit since Polaris would allow a 20 watt GPU to produce 1.3TFlops and considering AMD's Puma CPU was already able to hit 1.6Ghz, with the same core performance and core count as PS4 on 20 watts to it makes logical sense, if Zen is a 14nm part, with a redesigned architecture then it could potentially use less than half the power of Puma.
Costs would likely be really cheap too considering how many dies Nintendo could get from each wafer.

Notebook batteries have to contend with more energy demand than that would need once you take the full specs of a system into consideration. Even the possibility of putting something more energy hungry than Wii U in a handheld isn't unbelievable.

Here's the link to the rumor:

http://wccftech.com/rumor-nintendo-nx-power-closest-xbox-run-ps4xo-games-modification/

The whole closest to XB1 thing could either mean it's just over half the power of XB1, half way between PS4 and XB1 or somewhere inbetween. Technically a handheld with even PS4 levels of power could exist, it just needs a decent enough battery to power it, but laptops have those, so there's no reason why Nintendo couldn't one in a mobile console/handheld device, besides form factor issues.

I don't know if this whole wccftech rumor has been proven false or whether it's among the unknowns, but it's technically possible and worth a mention.



spemanig said:
Wii U mini is sourced? By who?

Good point.  I investigated the reddit page, and seeing how the post has been removed, I feel like it is safe to move this, probably to confirmed fake



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JustBeingReal said:

There was a rumor about an NX handheld, that had performance closest to XB1, but that it could stream gameplay or act as a source that streams footage to your TV through a wireless HDMI dongle.

Sounds pretty legit since Polaris would ...

And that's where it stops making sense.

Let's keep things sensible, shall we? No console that launches this year will have a Polaris based GPU. It's too new, too expensive and in too limited quantities to make any kind of sense to use them. Even the PS4/X1, that launched in late 2013, used graphic tech from early 2012 (which is when the HD 7870 was launched), because by then there were no problems with availability and the cost was low enough to make them feasible.

The NX won't have Polaris (or Zen, for the same reasons).



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JEMC said:
JustBeingReal said:

There was a rumor about an NX handheld, that had performance closest to XB1, but that it could stream gameplay or act as a source that streams footage to your TV through a wireless HDMI dongle.

Sounds pretty legit since Polaris would ...

And that's where it stops making sense.

Let's keep things sensible, shall we? No console that launches this year will have a Polaris based GPU. It's too new, too expensive and in too limited quantities to make any kind of sense to use them. Even the PS4/X1, that launched in late 2013, used graphic tech from early 2012 (which is when the HD 7870 was launched), because by then there were no problems with availability and the cost was low enough to make them feasible.

The NX won't have Polaris (or Zen, for the same reasons).

Yeah, if the handheld is anything more powerful than a Wii U clone I'll be floored.



JEMC said:
JustBeingReal said:

There was a rumor about an NX handheld, that had performance closest to XB1, but that it could stream gameplay or act as a source that streams footage to your TV through a wireless HDMI dongle.

Sounds pretty legit since Polaris would ...

And that's where it stops making sense.

Let's keep things sensible, shall we? No console that launches this year will have a Polaris based GPU. It's too new, too expensive and in too limited quantities to make any kind of sense to use them. Even the PS4/X1, that launched in late 2013, used graphic tech from early 2012 (which is when the HD 7870 was launched), because by then there were no problems with availability and the cost was low enough to make them feasible.

The NX won't have Polaris (or Zen, for the same reasons).

Actually it stays making sense thanks, considering that Polaris desktop and laptop parts are coming July to September it's entirely logical that Nintendo could have a SOC with those parts in it's system at the end of 2016.

Cost wise the actual chips used in a GPU usually account for about 1/3rd of the price of a retail Card's RRP, considering AMD plans to release a 40 CU model, which has performance of an R9 290x at under $349 thise would be entirely feasible for a dedicated gaming handheld device.

Costs are based on how many chips you can get off of one wafer, 14nm makes it possible to get many APUs off of one wafer and that basically improves the cost per unit considerably. New doesn't necessarily mean expensive, actually output being high makes costs cheap.

 

Please don't insult people by making out that this isn't sensible, when it actually is. I provided the source for a rumor and actually explained how it could be feasible for a handheld device. The tech exists, is launching to the mass market this year (the fabs are high performance, not low output), within the desktop and laptop markets, which are usually later to get newer parts than the server market is.

AMD wouldn't be releasing to the consumer market if volumes weren't high enough and the potential for handheld sales is high, so it makes perfect sense for this to be used in such a device.

The only real question is whether Nintendo would want handheld with that level of performance. Maybe they are going to bring a dedicated console, which would still need Polaris and Zen to be small form factor like Nintendo have shown themselves to be interested in using for their consoles since the Wii.