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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
mZuzek said:
It really is.

Having played (and loved) Pokken Tournament, I started to realize how much Smash is untouchable as the best fighting game of today. You see, as good as Pokken is, there's also so much wrong with it.

The thing with Pokken, and all other fighting games today, is that there's just way too many situations where you're not in control of what's going on.

For example, when you're getting combo'd, there's nothing you can do - all your inputs are completely useless. Meanwhile, in Smash, even if your opponent hits you with a true combo you can't get out of, you still have some control over your character through DI.

In Pokken, there's several aerial moves you can perform - however, when you're hit by an opponent's attack that sends you into the air, you can't do anything until falling to the ground. In Smash, if you're in the air, you're free to do any aerial option regardless of how you got into that position.

In Pokken, when you're knocked down, you're forced to do a normal getup and will never be punished for it. In Smash, when you're knocked down you can getup straight up, rolling backwards or forwards, or getup attack - and that's not even considering the possibility to tech -, and every option can be read and punished by your opponent too.

In Pokken, when you use a powerful move (which is not limited to synergy bursts), both you and your opponent have to watch the move take place through a very lengthy cutscene. In Smash, there are no cutscenes - nice moves are nice because they're hard to execute and hit with, and are done always during gameplay.

I could go on and on, but the point is: as much as I loved Pokken, it still doesn't nearly match up to Smash, which is nowadays the only fighting game that doesn't suffer from these issues. Smash is 100% pure fast-paced gameplay, with all players in full control of their characters and actions at all times, and that's why it's so good.

Exactly.

Conventional fighting games are stuck in their definitions. The perfect thing about Smash is that even if your at a high damage and by all account should be dead, you can still hang in there.

I'm a Peach main and I can regularly keep my self up to 200%+ damage in Melee. That's the equivalent of having negative HP in your street fighters or ur killer insticts, so really there is no comparison. The very fact that you can keep yourself alive through shreer willpower alone is unique to the series.

Obviously its an opinion on whatever you want, but the fact is that no other fighting game comes close to giving the player that much control, which is why I like it. Sure its fun to wail on some one with Ryu or Dormamu or Dante, but at the end of day the specatle is a huge part of it. I will say that Smash 4 is moving toward the specatcle as well but that's to be expected its a current gen game after all, but its still based in the fundamental do it yourself philosophy.

What is this willpower thing you're talking about? Skills?



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I'd say Smash 4 is a lot of fun, and still going strong financially. But despite lower SFV sales compared to SFIV for example i wouldn't say the fighting genre is slowing down, with MK still doing well and new IPs such as Pokken being popular.



 

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Ultrashroomz said:
If you want a guaranteed way to win every game of Smash, buy Cloud.

Still waiting for that Chuck Norris DLC char to make me buy the game.



Teeqoz said:

Still waiting for that Chuck Norris DLC char to make me buy the game.



                                                                                     

Mike321 said:
Teeqoz said:

Still waiting for that Chuck Norris DLC char to make me buy the game.

If I played as Chuck Norris, I wouldn't win in Smash. I would just allow my opponents to lose.

 

(Admit it though, Chuck Norris in Smash would actually be epic. And imagine the commercials they could make.)



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Teeqoz said:

If I played as Chuck Norris, I wouldn't win in Smash. I would just allow my opponents to lose.

 

(Admit it though, Chuck Norris in Smash would actually be epic. And imagine the commercials they could make.)

But Chuck wouldn't be in smash, a bunch of nintendo ip's and third party characters would be in Chuck's game



                                                                                     

Mike321 said:
Teeqoz said:

If I played as Chuck Norris, I wouldn't win in Smash. I would just allow my opponents to lose.

 

(Admit it though, Chuck Norris in Smash would actually be epic. And imagine the commercials they could make.)

But Chuck wouldn't be in smash, a bunch of nintendo ip's and third party characters would be in Chuck's game

Fair enough. New title would be something like "Chuch Norris Sm4shes game characters".



Teeqoz said:

Fair enough. New title would be something like "Chuch Norris Sm4shes game characters".

Instant GOAT, if they make it a launch title for NX the console sells 1 million units first day and becomes the best home console in history, make it happen nintendo.



                                                                                     

Mike321 said:
Teeqoz said:

Fair enough. New title would be something like "Chuch Norris Sm4shes game characters".

Instant GOAT, if they make it a launch title for NX the console sells 1 million just in units first day *preorders* and becomes the best home console in history, make it happen nintendo.

Fixed that for you.