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cfin2987@gmail.com said:
SamuelRSmith said:

The United Kingdom, and Hong Kong

You lived in the UK and are moving the New Jersey? Alrighty then :P

Stay within the following and you'll be fine.

  • Don't bring your wallet out at night, Ignore the racists,
  • don't have ambition to land a good job,
  • don't have kids, like ever
  • If you knock someone up, don't expect to be able to afford to educate her kid.
  • Also if the kid does arrive, expect to pay 50k for the birth.
  • Good luck finding a house with property tax = the same as the mortgage payment
  • get a job that provides health insurance or own your own health insurance company,
  • never get sick, even if you have health insurance
  • don't expect to afford to go back to University. If you do, slap yourself.
  • Ignore racists and if they beat you up, ignore it. Also don't visit a hospital after being beaten.
  • Chris Christie
  • Donald Trump
  • Billary Clinton
  • I hope your vegetarian, or else enjoy spending $9.99 a lb on beef.
  • Don't expect to live near or make friends with a large amount of people outside your ethnic grouping.
  • Do some research on credit scores. You, as an immigrant will be screwed.

Source: Lived it for 5 years. Worth it for my US wife but we now live elsewhere.

And what beautiful country are you originally from?

If your own country is so great then why do you fucking migrate?



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Awesome! Glad to have you over here! I like your view on politics and the world. Never new you wanted to move to the US though. Hope it all goes well for you. My wife emigrated from Germany, and her parents have as well. It is hard and there is a lot of peperwork too. Hopefully it is easier for you if your wife is already a citizen here.



Slimebeast said:

Cool! I vaguely member u wanted to go.

Your gf, did u meet her while she was alrdy living in the US or did she live in the UK?

What was it that you would work with if the Americans would have you? Something with economics, rite?

What do u mean by safe schools?

Where will u live? Like, what kind of neighborshood and what are the costs to rent and stuff?

What's the way of the Chinese and Indians in the system? Can u elaborate a li'l?

She's actually from China, I met her in Hong Kong.

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Computer Science is my skillset, with a lot of domain knowledge in finance. Once I can, though, I'd like to move out of finance into some other domain (healthcare or energy, probably), as I think the good days in finance are coming to an end. Technology lets me be broad in the industries I work for, I'd rather not make the mistake of locking myself into one industry early on.

I love economics, I wouldn't want to work anything in it though. Very few economists seem to be productive, many seem to be more harmful to society than helpful. Just used as "smart" people, wheeled out to the masses to justify bad ideas.

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Safe school, is a school that I have a very high chance of getting into. The grades and experience they require is below what I have. I applied for 5 schools. 2 safe schools, 2 schools that I am in the right range ("target schools"), and one school where my grades are definitely below what they usually accept, but they might have me based on my essays/recommendations ("moonshot school"), if I'm lucky.

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I will live in Jersey City. It's a relatively expensive place in comparison to most cities around America, due to its close proximity to Manhattan (I can see Manhattan from my balcony), however, it is substantially cheaper than Manhattan itself.

Here's a cost-comparison between JC and London - http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=United+States&city2=Jersey+City%2C+NJ , you can use that site to put in a city closer to you to get a better picture.

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Basically, the way that the American visa system works, is that there's a lottery each year for the visas. However, it is not a "fair" lottery in that everybody has an even shot, it is an "unfair" lottery in that certain people have better chances. The people with the best chance for getting a visa in that lottery are people with "advanced degrees" (Masters, PhD) from a US insitution.

In addition to this, the US also has another program where if you receive an advanced degree from a US institution in a STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Maths), you have the right to work for a small number of years without having to get the work visa, this is called OPT (Optional Practice Training). While you are working for an employer on OPT, that employer can also put you in for the visa lottery I mentioned above.

Due to the length of OPT, you will have three lottery chances before you get sent home. Three shots in the lottery with a higher-rated chance of success puts people in at a ~90% shot of getting a real work visa.

What this works out as, is that this pathway to working in America gives you much higher odds than any other pathway (short of illegal immigration). Which means that, on the margin, this is the route that most people will take, particularly younger people. A lot of people want to migrate to America, particularly Indian and Chinese, for a variety of reasons. As a result of this, there is a huge demand from international students to come into America to study, much, much, much higher than supply. This gives the Universities scarcity power, in the price-setting.

Maybe only the top 1% of Indians and Chinese can afford to take this route. But that's 1% of 2 1 billion+ populations. It's still a huge number. It outbids local students, and is one of the factors leading to higher Uni prices.



thranx said:
Awesome! Glad to have you over here! I like your view on politics and the world. Never new you wanted to move to the US though. Hope it all goes well for you. My wife emigrated from Germany, and her parents have as well. It is hard and there is a lot of peperwork too. Hopefully it is easier for you if your wife is already a citizen here.

No, she's not, she's a Chinese citizen.

It's an exceptionally difficult process, and it doesn't even do what it sets out to achieve, due to the porous nature of the border. It's very easy to get cynical about the whole thing.



Slimebeast said:
Peh said:
I would have waited until after the presidents election to see what happens to the US. Looking at discriminating and racistic Trump and his nutjob followers, it could turn out really bad.
But as long as you are white, you shouldn't have any issues...

Yeah, it's so much better in Germany where foreign hordes assault native women and the authorities try to cover it up.

That's a hyperbole. That's like me saying America is full of terrorist attacks because of 9/11.



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Slimebeast said:

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cfin2987@gmail.com said:

You lived in the UK and are moving the New Jersey? Alrighty then :P

Stay within the following and you'll be fine.

  • Don't bring your wallet out at night, Ignore the racists,
  • don't have ambition to land a good job,
  • don't have kids, like ever
  • If you knock someone up, don't expect to be able to afford to educate her kid.
  • Also if the kid does arrive, expect to pay 50k for the birth.
  • Good luck finding a house with property tax = the same as the mortgage payment
  • get a job that provides health insurance or own your own health insurance company,
  • never get sick, even if you have health insurance
  • don't expect to afford to go back to University. If you do, slap yourself.
  • Ignore racists and if they beat you up, ignore it. Also don't visit a hospital after being beaten.
  • Chris Christie
  • Donald Trump
  • Billary Clinton
  • I hope your vegetarian, or else enjoy spending $9.99 a lb on beef.
  • Don't expect to live near or make friends with a large amount of people outside your ethnic grouping.
  • Do some research on credit scores. You, as an immigrant will be screwed.

Source: Lived it for 5 years. Worth it for my US wife but we now live elsewhere.

And what beautiful country are you originally from?

If your own country is so great then why do you fucking migrate?

My US wife. Derrrrrrr! I'm from Ireland. Irish people love to travel, even with a booming economy. I'm guessing you've never even left your country and kno w nothing more than the tripe on cnn or Fox News. Read a little thing called fatca. And yes, I am entitled to my opinion. It's something I learned to do, growing up in a free country. Something you don't seem to agree with.



Slimebeast said:
Peh said:
I would have waited until after the presidents election to see what happens to the US. Looking at discriminating and racistic Trump and his nutjob followers, it could turn out really bad.
But as long as you are white, you shouldn't have any issues...

Yeah, it's so much better in Germany where foreign hordes assault native women and the authorities try to cover it up.

This guy^ hah! Because there is no crime in the U.S. And he's an expert on Germany. "Foreign hordes". "Native women". Seems like one of those people who thinks the U.S. Is the greatest at everything in the world contrary to all statistical facts, and thinks everywhere else is 3rd world. and that nothing like this ever happens in the U.S? 

Good luck in life, thinking so biased. 



cfin2987@gmail.com said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, it's so much better in Germany where foreign hordes assault native women and the authorities try to cover it up.

This guy^ hah! Because there is no crime in the U.S. And he's an expert on Germany. "Foreign hordes". "Native women". Seems like one of those people who thinks the U.S. Is the greatest at everything in the world contrary to all statistical facts, and thinks everywhere else is 3rd world. and that nothing like this ever happens in the U.S? 

Good luck in life, thinking so biased. 

I didn't wanted to say this out loud, but exactly my thoughts.



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cfin2987@gmail.com said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, it's so much better in Germany where foreign hordes assault native women and the authorities try to cover it up.

This guy^ hah! Because there is no crime in the U.S. And he's an expert on Germany. "Foreign hordes". "Native women". Seems like one of those people who thinks the U.S. Is the greatest at everything in the world contrary to all statistical facts, and thinks everywhere else is 3rd world. and that nothing like this ever happens in the U.S? 

Good luck in life, thinking so biased. 

You're talking to a Swedish person.



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outlawauron said:
cfin2987@gmail.com said:

This guy^ hah! Because there is no crime in the U.S. And he's an expert on Germany. "Foreign hordes". "Native women". Seems like one of those people who thinks the U.S. Is the greatest at everything in the world contrary to all statistical facts, and thinks everywhere else is 3rd world. and that nothing like this ever happens in the U.S? 

Good luck in life, thinking so biased. 

You're talking to a Swedish person.

My bum is on the Swedish.