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I am amazed that people in this thread actually think the Halo 4 campaign was good. I guess Halo really is in the hands of a new generation. Even when Halo 4 was released it was more hated than any game I have ever seen in my life and that's the official waypoint forums I am talking about. 343i were literally banning everybody and his mom because of the backlash.



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Halo 4 was well written and paced. They will learn. Also, while I don't mind Locke.... MASTER CHIEF IS THE FRONTMAN OF THE HALO BAND!



HylianYoshi said:
343 needs better everything.

Hear, hear.

The Halo series has really suffered under 343. What was once the premiere console FPS is now just another also-ran.



The story is planned for the next 20 years. Cortana being corrupted by the domain is just part of the grand arc.

The marketing playing up the hunt when it wasn't about it isn't 343's fault......MS should fire their marketing for that blunder.

The story is fine.....for extended unviverse fans. We saw Sanghelios, the Domain was finally referenced in the game! We saw the Arbiters keep and his ancient Kaidon armor.

Halo 5 was a build up game, made to set up the slate for whats coming. Halo 2 did the same thing, but time has been kind to that one.



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teamsilent13 said:

I am amazed that people in this thread actually think the Halo 4 campaign was good. I guess Halo really is in the hands of a new generation. Even when Halo 4 was released it was more hated than any game I have ever seen in my life and that's the official waypoint forums I am talking about. 343i were literally banning everybody and his mom because of the backlash.

As a fan since the beginning, it is the best campaign.....if you read the books.

Most Halo fans are multiplayer centric, and play the campaigns for what they are and don't look deeper......they can't even bother to google the extended universe.

Halo 1-3 had a plot our grandmother could follow (at its core). Aliens threaten to wipe us out, the Flood are another alien that kills everything, and you are humanitys last hope. Fantastic.

Halo 4 however goes deep in the EU and thats where the so-called fans get confused. They prefer Chief stayed an unfeeling robot-soldier? They didn't like Cortana rampancy showing unfiltered emotions? The Didact meant nothing to them as he was just some random alien? People didn't like the cutting edge graphics and finally seeing Forerunner building that were active for a change? Guess people prefered inert structures from 1-3 and didn't like seeing Prometheans at all......considering how important they were during the Flood-Forerunner war (sign).

As someone who read the Forerunner novels, the DIdact was an epic moment for me.....I finally saw him! I hung onto his every word. Dripping with references to the novels. The final battle aboard his ship, with the soundtrack title "Arrival" playing.........it was like the human-forerunner wars were back. But THIS time, humans would win. This time, the Didact wouldn't decimate humanity like they did milenia ago. That songs crecendo gave the player hope that this time, humanity will win, that you are the hero of humanity and the Librarian was right to trust in you.

Halo 4 begun the process to weed out the so-called lore fans. The most popular retort is "but the games should stand on their own". No. Look what happened to Star Wars. Decades of extended universe......RETCONNED. Because the majority of fans only watched the movies and couldn't be bothered to delve into the lore. I am glad 343 won't make the same mistake.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:
HylianYoshi said:
343 needs better everything.

Hear, hear.

The Halo series has really suffered under 343. What was once the premiere console FPS is now just another also-ran.

That was because there were a lot of people that used to play arena FPS back then, now twitch shooters dominate.

New gen players now think Halo gameplay is hard and games like COD and Battlefield are easier to pick up and play. That's not 343i's fault, matter fact in 3 years, they gave more to Halo universe than Bungie did in a decade.



Do you have fun playing a console different than mine?

DON'T!!!

teamsilent13 said:

I am amazed that people in this thread actually think the Halo 4 campaign was good. I guess Halo really is in the hands of a new generation. Even when Halo 4 was released it was more hated than any game I have ever seen in my life and that's the official waypoint forums I am talking about. 343i were literally banning everybody and his mom because of the backlash.

That sh*t is a cesspool, you graduate sh*t talking on Youtube, before you can comment there.



Do you have fun playing a console different than mine?

DON'T!!!

Goatseye said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Hear, hear.

The Halo series has really suffered under 343. What was once the premiere console FPS is now just another also-ran.

That was because there were a lot of people that used to play arena FPS back then, now twitch shooters dominate.

New gen players now think Halo gameplay is hard and games like COD and Battlefield are easier to pick up and play. That's not 343i's fault, matter fact in 3 years, they gave more to Halo universe than Bungie did in a decade.

Not to mention not retconn 3 seperate novels when making the story for Halo Reach......and 343 actually acknowledges the lore in Halo Wars, where as Bungie didn't think it deserved to be part of the franchise.

The frustrating part is that Bungie knew they were on their way out and stopped caring about the lore. They made zero effort to compare their story to the lore established since 2001. But now its cannon, and most Halo fans aren't into the story enough to know about the contradictions. So now you have Halo story casuals and actual lore fans constantly fighting over that.

But ya....343 needs better writers ;)



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Shiken said:
spemanig said:
Most of gaming needs better writers. Most of the games you think have good writing need better writers.

Your posts need better writters...

 

Just kidding. =P

...you need to write better :P



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Goatseye said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Hear, hear.

The Halo series has really suffered under 343. What was once the premiere console FPS is now just another also-ran.

That was because there were a lot of people that used to play arena FPS back then, now twitch shooters dominate.

New gen players now think Halo gameplay is hard and games like COD and Battlefield are easier to pick up and play. That's not 343i's fault, matter fact in 3 years, they gave more to Halo universe than Bungie did in a decade.

You're right that there's more competition than ever, but that's just part of the equation. Halo has declined in both single-player and multiplayer since 343 took control. Halo 5's multiplayer was a step forward from 4, no question, but overall it's a mediocre package. 

And about lore and mythology: I'm just not interested. I care about how the game plays, not about which characters, races, and planets are important in novels and comic books. Yes, the storylines in 1-Reach are modest compared with 343's plot lines. But, for me, that's for the better. I'd rather have a simple story that gives me as a player motivation than a convoluted soap opera.