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HylianYoshi said:
343 needs better everything.

Not multiplayer designers. Some of the best in the industry. 



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

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Nothing wrong with the writing of Halo 5, the point with Halo 5 was it was chopped up into 3 different parts. A trilogy which means that Halo 5 had to lead up to what's next. The story has already been written awhile ago and if you have finished Halo 5 on Legendary you will be excited with Halo 6. There's much more to come in the Halo Universe. Even though Halo 5 didn't live up to expectations from the adds, it still has one of the better stories for a FPS game.



Azzanation said:
Nothing wrong with the writing of Halo 5, the point with Halo 5 was it was chopped up into 3 different parts. A trilogy which means that Halo 5 had to lead up to what's next. The story has already been written awhile ago and if you have finished Halo 5 on Legendary you will be excited with Halo 6. There's much more to come in the Halo Universe. Even though Halo 5 didn't live up to expectations from the adds, it still has one of the better stories for a FPS game.

                                My problem with the ending in particular is that it does not satisfy me it sort off ends with a "In the next episode of the walking dead" without satisfying me or concluding something relevant to the story arc,in Halo 4 Master chief mission was returning to civilization for better or for worse he completed that mission in Halo 2 while having a similar ending problem to this one it completed the whole Arbiter story and the covies civil war. I dont get that in Halo 5 its just like a massive episode one of something with the majority of its content being filler aka Locke segments.



Halo 5 promised something different. Started off great, but just went downhill from the 3rd or so mission. The campaign, mission design and story were all bad. So yes, new writer, campaign lead and less interference from MS is needed.



Azzanation said:
Nothing wrong with the writing of Halo 5, the point with Halo 5 was it was chopped up into 3 different parts. A trilogy which means that Halo 5 had to lead up to what's next. The story has already been written awhile ago and if you have finished Halo 5 on Legendary you will be excited with Halo 6. There's much more to come in the Halo Universe. Even though Halo 5 didn't live up to expectations from the adds, it still has one of the better stories for a FPS game.

This I agree on alot.

Halo 5 is one of the best stories in gaming.

Its alot like Episode 5 of Star Wars. Without 6 it leaves alot tobe desired storywise. I believe when Halo 6 comes out it will flesh out 5. Halo 5 is the middle of a trilogy, and has not been afraid to turn existing loved characters into other things.

Its just 4 was so good on its own, which is why 5 feels a little disjointed without 6. Same way 2 wasnt liked until after 3 released.



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shikamaru317 said:
hudsoniscool said:

Not multiplayer designers. Some of the best in the industry. 

Unfortunately 3 of them recently left to start a new studio together.

This happens all the time. With every studio



shikamaru317 said:
TheMessiah said:

This happens all the time. With every studio

Thing is, they were 3 of the main people responsible for making Halo 5's MP so good, multiplayer design director, lead multiplayer producer, and lead arena engineer. Definitely worrying for Halo 6, hopefully 343 can find good replacements. 

The 3 same people that made Halo 4s notorious multiplayer the worst in the series. Its often bigger than the sum of its parts. Naughty Dog had some key people leave during Uncharted 4s development. Doesnt mean its now going to suck.



HylianYoshi said:
343 needs better everything.

I swear I was gonna write the exact same thing.



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shikamaru317 said:
TheMessiah said:

This happens all the time. With every studio

Thing is, they were 3 of the main people responsible for making Halo 5's MP so good, multiplayer design director, lead multiplayer producer, and lead arena engineer. Definitely worrying for Halo 6, hopefully 343 can find good replacements. 

Nothing to worry about. Halo 5 has already set the foundations for Halo 6 multiplayer. There isnt as much need for them. They fixed the MP where H4 failed. Went from the worst MP in Halo history in H4 to the best with H5. All H6 has to do is do eactly what H5 does.



I hated Halo 4 and Halo 5's storyline. Spartan Ops was also a disaster. I thought Halo 4's storyline was just as bad as Halo 5 because of how stupid it was. It ended up making me hate Cortana and Chief and how they made their relationship way too important. Not to mention the ridiculous amounts of plotholes. Halo 5's storyline was almost more tolerable because basiacly nothing happened. It was very poorly written and did not greatly affect the universe, while Halo 4 was poorly written and greatly affected the franchise direction. Halo 5 campaign was explained at the end of the first level when Hasley basiacly tells you that Cortana is the villain. The rest of the campaign becomes predictable especially the AI governor character. I mean Halo 5 played better than Halo 4 although again felt like it lacked good setpieces and got worse as the campaign went on...I don't know really I disliked both. Halo Reach was far better in terms of gameplay than the 343 games, but I also did not like that campaign's story. However, to be fair Reach had a much better level direction and focus. I choose to forget 343 campaigns because frankly they don't come close to what Bungie gave us. I would gladly take Halo 2's cliffhanger ending or Halo 3's plotholes because you essentially get both with 343 at a much greater scale and worse result.