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SvennoJ said:
JRPGfan said:
Bad idea.
Solution? stop being lazy and go chance discs.

Kids nowadays right ;)
Back in my day I had to turn or change Laserdiscs every 45 minutes during a movie, max that fits on each side. And those are heavy :p

But it does feel a bit pointless to have to insert the disc if the game is fully installed anyway. If people were simply honest and uninstalled it before selling the disc. What a silly notion. We have a long way to go as humanity.

I rememeber trying to blow into NES and SNES cardridges for 10 mins just to get the game to work. Changing discs is easy peasy.



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Aeolus451 said:
SvennoJ said:

Kids nowadays right ;)
Back in my day I had to turn or change Laserdiscs every 45 minutes during a movie, max that fits on each side. And those are heavy :p

But it does feel a bit pointless to have to insert the disc if the game is fully installed anyway. If people were simply honest and uninstalled it before selling the disc. What a silly notion. We have a long way to go as humanity.

I rememeber trying to blow into NES and SNES cardridges for 10 mins just to get the game to work. Changing discs is easy peasy.

Try loading the same game from tape 4 times, hoping it will survive the wrinkle in the tape at 8 minutes this time. It could take half an hour to get hyper rally to work. Cotton swabs and alcohol at the ready to keep the tape heads clean. Still worth it.



Meh, I'd rather go in reverse and bring carts back. They're superior to discs at this point anyway.



spemanig said:
Yeah, or you could just go digital only and avoid the headache of creating such a complex, expensive, labor-heavy, and cumbersome infrastructure that has no benefit what-so-ever to the publishers selling these games over the digital only alternative.

Nice try, though. 10/10 for effort.

Who gives a rats ass about benefiting publishers? I'm not a publisher. I'm a consumer. I care about what benefits consumers the most and having the ability to sell/buy second hand games does exactly that.



Changing discs or cartridges is one of the benefits of physical media for me. I like the experience. So get off your lazy fat ass and change the damn disc. It really isn't that hard to get off the sofa once you get used to it.



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AlfredoTurkey said:

Who gives a rats ass about benefiting publishers? I'm not a publisher. I'm a consumer. I care about what benefits consumers the most and having the ability to sell/buy second hand games does exactly that.

...The publishers do. You know, the ones who actually make these decisions. They don't care what benefits consumers if it doesn't benefit them. Giving consumers the ability to throw aways sales does not benefit them, which is why there's an obvious push to get rid of physical. This is a business, not a charity.



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spemanig said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Who gives a rats ass about benefiting publishers? I'm not a publisher. I'm a consumer. I care about what benefits consumers the most and having the ability to sell/buy second hand games does exactly that.

...The publishers do. You know, the ones who actually make these decisions. They don't care what benefits consumers if it doesn't benefit them. Giving consumers the ability to throw aways sales does not benefit them, which is why there's an obvious push to get rid of physical. This is a business, not a charity.

Fair enough, but Microsoft tried and the consumer voted no. I know, I know, you're going to go all "but it was their delivery" bla bla bla. But it failed, hard. In the end, publishers don't hold the keys, we do. If we want something, they will do as we want. 



SvennoJ said:
Aeolus451 said:

I rememeber trying to blow into NES and SNES cardridges for 10 mins just to get the game to work. Changing discs is easy peasy.

Try loading the same game from tape 4 times, hoping it will survive the wrinkle in the tape at 8 minutes this time. It could take half an hour to get hyper rally to work. Cotton swabs and alcohol at the ready to keep the tape heads clean. Still worth it.

I never exprienced that but it reminds me of VHS and cassette tapes. I wonder if it was like those. I really hated VHS. Lost so many movies to a VCR eating a tape..... Meh.



honestly you need to think outside the square to be lazy.

get a wife dude, the tell her to change your discs.



 

 

AlfredoTurkey said:

Fair enough, but Microsoft tried and the consumer voted no. I know, I know, you're going to go all "but it was their delivery" bla bla bla. But it failed, hard. In the end, publishers don't hold the keys, we do. If we want something, they will do as we want. 

Steam tried and the consumer voted yes.

But sure, "if we want something they will do as we want," like when Destiny became a massive hit despite the always online that "killed" the XBO. And now with The Division.

And with all the games that release with an anemic amount of content, again like Destiny, only to have more be sold later as DLC. Consumers never EVER support that.

Or miscrotransactions. That is definitely not running rampant in many highly successful games currently even though it's "universally" hated. I'm sure it'll be on the way out soon because the consumes are speaking with their wallets. Publishers will DEFINITELY do what we want when it hurts their bottom line.

The original XBO concept failed because of poor delivery, poor excecution, and poor PR. Nothing else. Focusing their reveal on TV and Sports instead of games, tying digital purchases to disks as some cheap compromise, bricking your console if you weren't connected to the internet, launching the system at $500, bundling it with the entirely optional accessory the kinect, and letting Don Mattrick be the voice of the the XBO. All that together killed it. Definitely not digital. It barely even constitutes as a digital platform since it still read disks.

The will do what they want, and get away with it. Especially with digital. It's only a matter of time, and that time is most likely going to be this year. And the best part is that people are going to absolutely love it. And if another company pulls the quantity of mistakes that the XBO did at its reveal, it deserves to fail. Digital only definitely won't, though.



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