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Won't do, only the cessation of Western interventionism, acceptance and DECENT inhabitation of refugees and the institution of a non-imperialist aid program in the region will solve the crisis.



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GoOnKid said:
justinian said:

I love your sentiment even if I laugh at your naiveity. People who think hate and greed can just end like that. Good luck.

Why I find these arguments so annoying is that they solve NOTHING. That's got nothing to do with the here and now.. 2016, the time we live in.

In 2016 people are starving, they are race and religious tensions and a whole lot other stuff going on. How the hell telling me about the future is going to help the situation. We could all be nuked to hell and back by then.

OT: You seriuosly think taking kids from one culture and forcing another culture on them - most likely against their parents wishes, is the solution. OK. May work. i doubt it.

Of course these things don't stop just like that, but at least he knows what is needed to make the world a better place, while it seems that you just don't care and accept all the bad things without thinking about how to end them. Therefore his answer is not naiv, it's a start.

Any two year old kid can can tell you how to make the world a better place. There is nothing remarkable in that. How is talking about some utopian future going to help what is going on today?

I don't talk. I do. I volunteer my services (usually medical) for free. I have been to Africa, Asia and the Middle East. I have seen things that I won't forget. These people don't want to hear about some glorious future. That's for comfortable westerners in front of their video consoles who don't have to worry where their next meal is coming from. I deal in the reality of the present.



proposal for the refugee crisis: refugees stand up and fight for your home. seriously- pictures of the refugees have shown that a majority of them are ADULT males.

    The reason things have gotten out of hand in those places are because the people let them get that way. I don't entirely blame them, obviously, but the answer isn't simply to run other places, to other countries.

because at some point if everyone just runs when things go wrong, rather than fight to fix them, you run out of places to go.

running away is not a long term strategy and it screws the people left in their homeland

Children and women are one thing, but I don't want to take a totally sexist perspective on the whole thing. As a whole if other country's are willing to take in refugees then why not use that same energy and effort to instead help stablize their homeland? people fleeing is not the answer and never will be the answer



Given what the term "refugee" means, it makes me sad that America is SO WORRIED about terrorism, they don't even want to help people.



yes people, i know this isn't the best of ideas. However, it's not our fault people are inconsiderate assholes and only want all refugees or no refugees to leave Syria.

I mean, let's refer back to history. Refugees have never been a benefit to society. Look at America when a flood of immigrants(different I know, but along the same lines) came into America. They weren't used to our lifestyle, causing economic and social issues.

It is only after a generation or two that the new groups of people grown accustomed to the place they live in and blend in.



All things considered though, we wouldn't have to deal with all of these issues if the fucker named Al-Assad didn't murder anyone that hurt his feelings. We overthrew Hussein in Iraq, why the heck is America hesitant on overthrowing Assad? The place is ruined enough.

As long as this issue lasts, more and more refugees will come. Most aren't bad. However, there are the few buffoons who still think they're part of the Ottoman Empire or something. I mean, damn. Humans need to get their shit together.



 

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Ka-pi96 said:
Aeolus451 said:
No thanks. Who would raise them? Who would pay for their food, place to stay and education? What would we do with them when they become adults? Syria should deal with it's own problems. If it can't then it should fall to let a different or new government take its place.

That's kind of what's happening. The old government don't often just give up and let the new one take over though, hence civil war.

That's always the case it seems. I wonder if the world will let them settle it themselves or not.



justinian said:
CosmicSex said:
This planet provides more than enough resources for all of us to be taken care of. Once we mature from a child species into actual problem solvers, discussions like this will seem silly because the one logical thing will be to help people in need. And Empathy is more than just an idea. Its a thing that humans who aren't completely broken inside by hate and money worshiping can feel.

I love your sentiment even if I laugh at your naiveity. People who think hate and greed can just end like that. Good luck.

Why I find these arguments so annoying is that they solve NOTHING. That's got nothing to do with the here and now.. 2016, the time we live in.

In 2016 people are starving, they are race and religious tensions and a whole lot other stuff going on. How the hell telling me about the future is going to help the situation. We could all be nuked to hell and back by then.

OT: You seriuosly think taking kids from one culture and forcing another culture on them - most likely against their parents wishes, is the solution. OK. May work. i doubt it.

The idea that we have to solve things in the future isn't absolute.   The opportunity exists in the here and now.  In 2016.  Yes, it is naive to assume that we as a collective would suddenly at once realize that obvious answer. But, I think that important to acknowledge the fact that it a way. I can't help but to believe in people lol. 



I just can't believe these countries would even let these things in the first place when they know how much trouble they cause.

Why on Earth would a European country ever want to let Syrians into their country?



justinian said:

Any two year old kid can can tell you how to make the world a better place. There is nothing remarkable in that. How is talking about some utopian future going to help what is going on today?

I don't talk. I do. I volunteer my services (usually medical) for free. I have been to Africa, Asia and the Middle East. I have seen things that I won't forget. These people don't want to hear about some glorious future. That's for comfortable westerners in front of their video consoles who don't have to worry where their next meal is coming from. I deal in the reality of the present.

That's great. So what would your suggestion to stop this be then?