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Amiibo is the worst thing to happen this generation

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What do you think about it?

Amiibo = shit 179 29.88%
 
Amiibo = meh 152 25.38%
 
Amiibo = love 167 27.88%
 
BraLoD = hater 51 8.51%
 
BraLoD slept with Sanic 50 8.35%
 
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BraLoD said:
theRepublic said:

Skylanders pretty much started this whole thing.  Nintendo saw how successful it was, saw how it could easily fit in with their very popular mascot characters, and copied how it worked.  You want to blame someone for this, blame Activision.  And blame them for starting it last generation.

Don't even try and deny it.  Even Disney Infinity beat them to market.

Again, I'm talking about Amiibos here, you tried to get me into some meaning there is simply not present on the concept of the thread or the title, I'm talking about Amiibo, Amiibo started this generation, that's it, there is nothing wrong with what I'm saying, and I don't need to deny things I never even mentioned.

I'm blaming Nintendo for a Nintendo product practice, it's as simply as this, and it's no more than this.

And what I am telling you, is that acting like Skylanders doesn't exist completely kills your argument.



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theRepublic said:
BraLoD said:

Again, I'm talking about Amiibos here, you tried to get me into some meaning there is simply not present on the concept of the thread or the title, I'm talking about Amiibo, Amiibo started this generation, that's it, there is nothing wrong with what I'm saying, and I don't need to deny things I never even mentioned.

I'm blaming Nintendo for a Nintendo product practice, it's as simply as this, and it's no more than this.

And what I am telling you, is that acting like Skylanders doesn't exist completely kills your argument.

You are simply trying to involve a non-factor to the actual subject.
I never said Nintendo started the figurine DLC practice stuff, which seems like is what you are taking from it.

I said Amiibo is the worst thing to happen this generation, which is both my opinion and something from this generation (Amiibo), which you tried to claim were two wrong things on my thread, which are not.

There is no argument being killed here by my part, just you adding things that are not present to try to invalidate a point which was never made as if it was the subject of the thread, which does not support any of your claims as non-factors.

The arguments that have fallen down here are your two supposedly "wrong" things in my thread, which are not wrong as already discussed.

Case closed?



simple to get over this amiibo - if you don't like DLC/micro transactions and figurine toys, don't buy it. it is DLC on a toy and that is how Nintendo wanted to market it. a design done by Nintendo and the cretors of Skylanders, and others.

while other publishers have its own way of DLC, it is basically similar.

the plus is you'll have a toy, if you don't like it then just don't buy it.

don't support DLC/micro transactions as well.



gabzjmm23 said:
simple to get over this amiibo - if you don't like DLC/micro transactions and figurine toys, don't buy it. it is DLC on a toy and that is how Nintendo wanted to market it. a design done by Nintendo and the cretors of Skylanders, and others.

while other publishers have its own way of DLC, it is basically similar.

the plus is you'll have a toy, if you don't like it then just don't buy it.

don't support DLC/micro transactions as well.

The problem there is that without it something that was once in-game will not be in the game.
It grows further than just ignoring the DLC if it's extra stuff you don't want, when it's a part of the game tied to it, in this case an ability which was already in the Kirby series just like any other, which now is tied to a toy.

There is no easy path around this one, if you don't want it and just avoid it, you are accepting losing part of your game for not paying more; if you buy it you are supporting the idea of tying content of the game to an extra cost for the company; and if you ultimately just want the feature and would pay a DLC price for it, you still can't, you have to pay for the whole toy anyway to get that ability, if that's the only thing you want as a gamer, not a figurine collector.

Do you understand it? It's a horrible practice for a gamer only and not also a figurine collector, and it's potentally scalating.



Mr Puggsly said:
I dont really care because the Amiibos are junk DLC in my opinion.

I rarely buy DLC as is.

maybe junk but at least you get a toy out of the DLC...compare to other company like MS and the other you get nada. IMO



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gabzjmm23 said:
simple to get over this amiibo - if you don't like DLC/micro transactions and figurine toys, don't buy it. it is DLC on a toy and that is how Nintendo wanted to market it. a design done by Nintendo and the cretors of Skylanders, and others.

while other publishers have its own way of DLC, it is basically similar.

the plus is you'll have a toy, if you don't like it then just don't buy it.

don't support DLC/micro transactions as well.

"Don't like it, don't buy it" doesn't solve the problem for people who are being denied access to stuff on the game disc they paid for unless they buy an additional plastic toy.

For example, as a big fan of the SNES Starfox, I would love to play the newly announced retro mode where the Arwing, its lasers/bombs, and the music/sound effects are ripped from the SNES original. That content will be on the disc that I will spend $80 on. But I'll be denied access to it unless I then go and buy a plastic toy. That's shit.



BraLoD said:

 can't be wrong on my opinion, I think it's the worst practice this generation, you can't change that, your opinion does not invalidate mine, that's the truth in my opinion, therefore, nope, I'm not wrong on that count.

No. Your opinion is wrong. There's no two ways about it.

The fact that one ability, UFO, that HAS NOT BEEN IN THE LAST SIX KIRBY GAMES, is incredibly rare, has to be abadoned most times since you can't go up doors or ladders and and Nintendo added in a new ability to its repotoire (Tractor Beam) and is locked by Amiibo is worse than say, Arkham Knight being completely unplayable at launch?

 

On one hand, you have a complete game with an uncessary bonus item that is overpriced, on the other you have a game that doesn't work.at all. for 60$

 

If you think the former is worse than the latter, then you're 100% wrong.

 

There are literally dozens of shitty practices done by publishers that dwarf amiibo in terms of shittiness OBJECTIVELY.

 



BraLoD said:

It's spawing from all kinds of content lock you can imagine already, and now it has gone so far as to take an ability Kirby already had on other games and just lock it away from people without the new amiibo for the new Kirby game, fucking locking an ability away from you if you do not buy a physical toy for $13, that if you are playing with a N3DS, because if you have a 3DS you'll also have to pay more for a separated accessory to make the amiibo work on it.

Seriously, how can this complete shit practice Nintendo has been pulling on you guys have been so widely successful? That's the very worst kind of DLC/content lock to ever happen, locking you from things in your game behind a physical object (which even has stock issues to make it worse for you to even be able to get that content) that you have to pay A LOT for, seriously, if you have a 3DS and want that UFO ability you already had prior also in this new game you have to cash in another $13 for a toy plus $25 or so for an adapter if you still didn't got it, that's from $13 to almost $40 bucks to get access to a freaking ability Kirby has already had, that's as high as the price of a brand new game not so long after launch, for a freaking ability ripped away from the game just to scam you!

Amiibo is a cancer to the gaming industry, a fucking big and ugly tumor, and I can't believe I see people talking others are overreacting when we are actually underreacting, but keep letting it go, "it's not much" afterall, right?

I'm afraid of what'll come for the new Pokemon games, amiibos locking some Pokemon behind it? Maybe the Legendaries? A new Pokemon type only available by amiibo? Get you amiibo to unlock access to the league!? I can't wait!
It'll only keep growing to the worst kinds of locks as soon as you keep supporting this shit, open your eyes.

Fucking awesome, just awesome.

Voted for shit a few hours ago. Great post by the way.



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BraLoD said:
gabzjmm23 said:
simple to get over this amiibo - if you don't like DLC/micro transactions and figurine toys, don't buy it. it is DLC on a toy and that is how Nintendo wanted to market it. a design done by Nintendo and the cretors of Skylanders, and others.

while other publishers have its own way of DLC, it is basically similar.

the plus is you'll have a toy, if you don't like it then just don't buy it.

don't support DLC/micro transactions as well.

The problem there is that without it something that was once in-game will not be in the game.
It grows further than just ignoring the DLC if it's extra stuff you don't want, when it's a part of the game tied to it, in this case an ability which was already in the Kirby series just like any other, which now is tied to a toy.

There is no easy path around this one, if you don't want it and just avoid it, you are accepting losing part of your game for not paying more; if you buy it you are supporting the idea of tying content of the game to an extra cost for the company; and if you ultimately just want the feature and would pay a DLC price for it, you still can't, you have to pay for the whole toy anyway to get that ability, if that's the only thing you want as a gamer, not a figurine collector.

Do you understand it? It's a horrible practice for a gamer only and not also a figurine collector, and it's potentally scalating.

So wait, is Kirby not able to take anythings power without an amiibo? Or is it just character specific powers?



People on VGchartz are defending on disc DLC because of a plastic figurine? For 15 bugs I could buy either DC bikes or Bloodborne the old hunter. Which offers way more than this.



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