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If Microsoft does this, it makes sense, not for the casual console owner, but the more hardcore console owner. 

People's who have invested in an Xbox One will still be able to play new games, they will just look better on the Xbox One S.

Microsoft is actually listening, look how many people have posted how weak the Xbox One is compared to PC's.

I think every 3 years there is a major leap in GPU speed on PC's. It looks like Microsoft is looking to keep up with PC's with Xbox. This is could bring some PC gamers back to Xbox.

I am looking to E3 2016 for an announcement as this holiday would be 3 years since Xbox One has been out. Xbox One S anyone? E3 can't come soon enough.



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No, please. That'd be horrible. Every generation should be like the seventh, which lasted like eight years, and even then consoles still got support afterwards. A three-year ratio per new console would be disastrous IMO.



Nobody should release a new console every 3 years, imo.



Jega said:

If Microsoft does this, it makes sense

Sure, Microsoft can't do wrong in your eyes. ;)

Jega said:

Microsoft is actually listening, look how many people have posted how weak the Xbox One is compared to PC's.

Maybe they should have listened to that 3 years earlier.



3 years, nah silly idea, doesn't give devs time to settle hardware, 6 years seems good to me.



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Ka-pi96 said:
As a hardcore console owner this would just mean I stop buying Xbox consoles. I always buy multiple consoles per generation, hardcore and all that, so having to buy 2 or 3 different versions of Xbox consoles as well as PS/Nintendo would just be too expensive. Not to mention that Xbox's lineup is already one of the weaker ones, splitting that between 2 or 3 separate consoles would just make it much weaker.

Plus the more mainstream gamers will be put off by having to keep buying new models rather than just a single PS console which can play every game for possibly the next decade.

So I can't see any appeal to either hardcore console owners or mainstream ones. What about Microsoft themselves? Can only see this making a huge loss for them as consoles need significant R&D costs + marketing to get a succesful launch and usually only start being profitable in the later years. Removing the later years and only having the ones that usually make a loss? How is that a good idea for Microsoft?

Microsoft would make back the money because they will not launch at a loss per console, but a profit. 

Gamers don't lose because you will still be able to play the latest games, the games will just look better on the newer console.



Sure, but it would not cost much less than a comparable steam box and get no special optimization treatment from 3rd party devs.

Hardcore gamers already get the benefit of a relatively cheap launch price, subsidized by the vast majority of sales that happen when the console is cheaper to manufacture and MS can recoup R&D costs. Cut off the profitable part of the gen and the launch price will be $600 or $800.

The same thing is true for games. Game companies invest in new game engines at the start of a new gen to reap the benefits throughout the second half of the gen. Shorter cycles means more costly game development, next to more systems to maintain, game prices will be $80 or $100.

Of course that's assuming the market doesn't shrink after getting hit with more expensive consoles and game prices...



The only sensible release is a new "model" like a slim or something, that has upgradeable components as opposed to what it is now.
Releasing a new console every 3 years will kill the casual market because consoles are not a necessity, you cannot apply the smartphone model to consoles.
Because people use smartphones so much, its a lot easier to rationalize upgrading because you will run into the problem of power or battery life more frequently.
Even with the hardcore gamers, you're going to have a hard time convincing them to get iterations of the xbox when you could easily just get a gaming PC at that point, and just change out cards every 5+ years.



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Jega said:

1). People's who have invested in an Xbox One will still be able to play new games, they will just look better on the Xbox One S.

2). Microsoft is actually listening, look how many people have posted how weak the Xbox One is compared to PC's.

I think every 3 years there is a major leap in GPU speed on PC's. It looks like Microsoft is looking to keep up with PC's with Xbox. This is could bring some PC gamers back to Xbox.

1). Sure, for a limited time. After 6-8 years people will move on and the console will be outdated and support will be dropped, just like your average 6-8 PC is outdated and doesn't support the latest PC games

2). This will always be the case with consoles unless:

  • You're ok with spending way more on consoles than you have to do now
  • Console makers are ok with losing hundreds of dollars on each units sold

Power costs money, and either the customer has to pay for it or the console maker has to be willing to take a loss on it. It doesn't matter how regularly Microsoft (and other console makers) release new console, compared to the better PCs they'll always be worse.
Also with Microsoft releasing their games on PC now there's absolute 0 reason for Xbox owners who went to PC to return. You might say Halo and GoW, but we all know it's just a matter of time before those also come to Windows 10 PCs.



Horrible idea.