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Wall for the US?

Yep 76 30.52%
 
Nope. 173 69.48%
 
Total:249

All I can think of is South Park.



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fatslob-:O said:

Again with the scapegoating towards corporations ... 

If you don't like the fact that their been exploited then deporting them is very much a valid solution ... 

The wall that Donald Trump proposes does not go against the constitution so I'm not exactly sure how it goes against what the US stands for ... 

Again, look at what is causing the immigration.  If there is a wall and still jobs, they will just come in another way.  Heck, there are already a bunch of walls - some even splitting at least one city in half along the USA/Mexico.  It's disgusting.

As long as those people can get work they will keep coming back.  You stop it at the source - the companies that are hiring them - the source of the money.  They are the US Citizens and corporations breaking the law. 

You want to blame the people who are getting the jobs, and not the employers.  It makes no since to do that.  The employers are the ones causing the problem. 



 

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Zappykins said:

Again, look at what is causing the immigration.  If there is a wall and still jobs, they will just come in another way.  Heck, there are already a bunch of walls - some even splitting at least one city in half along the USA/Mexico.  It's disgusting.

As long as those people can get work they will keep coming back.  You stop it at the source - the companies that are hiring them - the source of the money.  They are the US Citizens and corporations breaking the law. 

You want to blame the people who are getting the jobs, and not the employers.  It makes no since to do that.  The employers are the ones causing the problem. 

So what your saying that it's the employers fault that mexicans are coming to the US cause their offering jobs to anyone ?! 

That's like saying it's the woman's fault for getting raped because of her attractive body ... 

Does no one care about self accountability ?! I don't remember employers threatening illegal immigrants to come to the US ... 

Anytime you pin the blame on businesses your just derailing this thread one step further from the topic ...



fatslob-:O said:
Zappykins said:

Again, look at what is causing the immigration.  If there is a wall and still jobs, they will just come in another way.  Heck, there are already a bunch of walls - some even splitting at least one city in half along the USA/Mexico.  It's disgusting.

As long as those people can get work they will keep coming back.  You stop it at the source - the companies that are hiring them - the source of the money.  They are the US Citizens and corporations breaking the law. 

You want to blame the people who are getting the jobs, and not the employers.  It makes no since to do that.  The employers are the ones causing the problem. 

So what your saying that it's the employers fault that mexicans are coming to the US cause their offering jobs to anyone ?! 

That's like saying it's the woman's fault for getting raped because of her attractive body ... 

Does no one care about self accountability ?! I don't remember employers threatening illegal immigrants to come to the US ... 

Anytime you pin the blame on businesses your just derailing this thread one step further from the topic ...

No, those are not remotely comparable. 

Be mature, if there couldn't make money, they couldn't come.  The business that hire people illegally are the problem and you want to go off on some made up problem.  I have lived right near an international border. 

The biggest thing to stop illegal immigration was the collapse of the US economy at the end of the 2nd Bush administration.  It’s about making money, most do not want to leave their home.

Did you know that people can get drugs in prison?  If they can’t keep drug out from incarcerated people, then how do you imagine some bigger wall from what we already have will do anything.  It's just symbolic in the wrong way.

 

If you want to just hate people because of their race then just be open about it.



 

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Zappykins said:

If you want to just hate people because of their race then just be open about it.

What ?! LOL, I'm in the racial minority as far as North America goes ... =/ (It's disappointing that it had to come to this.) 

How are they not comparable ? Both are performing a type of invasion to their own benefit ... 

If it's about money then why don't they just ask for their own government handouts instead of stealing jobs from the US ? 



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fatslob-:O said:
Zappykins said:

If you want to just hate people because of their race then just be open about it.

What ?! LOL, I'm in the racial minority as far as North America goes ... =/ (It's disappointing that it had to come to this.) 

How are they not comparable ? Both are performing a type of invasion to their own benefit ... 

If it's about money then why don't they just ask for their own government handouts instead of stealing jobs from the US ? 

How are they stealing something that is given to them?  The companies are violated the law by hiring people illegally.

What invasion are you talking about?

PS Just because you claim to be a minory doesn't mean you can't be racist.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Why build a wall when you have to maintain it?

There are other options worth considering:

1) Dig a big hole all the way across the border, fill it with acid. So any thing entering will decompose. Or better yet with motion sensors so if it detects movement big as flames start to burn (i.e. a firewall). Pretty sure the guys in Texas be happy to sell their oil for that cause.

2) Landmine field. Then run a national betting competition to win millions to see how many people get blown up in each sector trying to cross. Could become American' favourite pastime



 

 

Zappykins said:

How are they stealing something that is given to them?  The companies are violated the law by hiring people illegally.

What invasion are you talking about?

PS Just because you claim to be a minory doesn't mean you can't be racist.

Extremely sad that you would even discredit one's argument because you accuse them of being racists ...  

And the mexicans violated the law by crossing the border illegally without visas or government permission before companies were hiring them ...

Really not hard to grasp that the first and main offenders are the illegal immigrants ...



I dont disagree with the wall, every country has a right to control their fronteers, but I disagree with the idea that the USA has a big problem with illegal immigrants, or that they are stealing American jobs.
The USA has over 300 million people, its illegal immigrants problem is small compared to most of Europe or even dozens of third world countries.
And also, I dont think many Americans would be willing to the jobs illegal immigrants do, for the small pay they get, be it in agriculture or as domestic servants.



The Wall will do fine, Trump will have Chinese Engineers to make it. Trololololo!