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JNK said:
Volterra_90 said:

Okey, badly worded. I wanted to say "must not crush", not "must not touch". WWHD has some nice improvements on lightning and textures, but it's not far away from the original. It retains, and feels WW. While that dolphin TP doesn't look anything like the original TP. I meen, look at Kakariko village. It's completely different to the one on TP, and it certainly lacks... a lot. Some parts look good, but others are truly abismal. I prefer the texture rework in TPHD, tbh. And it would be impossible to make a game that looks like that with a very old engine, so... 

And, well, I really prefer to pay 50 bucks for TPHD than buy a rig and play the game in Dolphin.

 

I wont say its much different (imo at least).

Its still a shame to nintendo is some fans do an better job then your final product, no matter if an high end rig is more expensive or not.

Well, we don't have the same eyes, but Kakariko Village is a desert village, and in the fan-made remake it looks way too vivid, what's the point of the grass? It just doesn't make sense to do that. You can feel in the picture of the left (TP) the desolate and desertic feeling, and you can't certainly do that on the picture on the right. And I think you can appreciate that the differences between WW and WWHD are lightning and some textures rework, but it retains exactly the same feeling, and a pretty much similar art style.



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Volterra_90 said:

Well, we don't have the same eyes, but Kakariko Village is a desert village, and in the fan-made remake it looks way too vivid, what's the point of the grass? It just doesn't make sense to do that. You can feel in the picture of the left (TP) the desolate and desertic feeling, and you can't certainly do that on the picture on the right. And I think you can appreciate that the differences between WW and WWHD are lightning and some textures rework, but it retains exactly the same feeling, and a pretty much similar art style.

thats probl not our eyes but our interpretation.

Its just some grass, it didnt feel vivid because of that to me. Kakariko is meant to be in the steppe, not desert right? Thats what my feeling are about it. a western steppe, not an oriental desert.

some grass is very commong for a steppe.



JNK said:

thats probl not our eyes but our interpretation.

Its just some grass, it didnt feel vivid because of that to me. Kakariko is meant to be in the steppe, not desert right? Thats what my feeling are about it. a western steppe, not an oriental desert.

some grass is very commong for a steppe.

But it's non-existent on the original Kakariko Village, so it doesn't fell like Kakariko Village at all, and that's the point I'm making. 

TP is known by its dark and gritty atmosphere, you have to be certain to keep that if you're willing to do a remake. It would be my last answer, because in your other thread (which is locked now) you pretty much bashed Nintendo fans saying that half of us would say that WiiU games look better than XOne. We're Nintendo fans, not delusional. We know the hardware is weaker. So stop that BS.



JNK said:
Miyamotoo said:

Also, TP cant look better on dolphin because its same game in just higher resolution, while TP HD except resolution bump also has complete overhauled of textures, better shadows and lighting, post-process and anti-aliasing.

I need to get my eyes checked then i guess... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDVY6Q9pfk

You realise that is fan remake of TP, not original TP game runing thorugh dolphin!?

 

 

JNK said:
Volterra_90 said:

Yeah, but there are may things to consider. A remaster of any game must not touch the original's art style. This is my personal opinion, obviously, and I really dislike all that Dolphin remasters which try to be so cool that totally crushed the original, making it feel and look a completely different games sometimes. And, second, what are the specs of a PC which manages to run that? Is it more powerful than a WiiU? Or not?

sure its need to be more powerfull, because he EMULATES the game. SOFTWATRE EMULATION, that needs ALOT power. The game with those graphics could run completly fine on the wii u, scince it would get ported to the wii u and not emulated.

BTW nintendo changed the artstyle with windwaker hd as well.

WW HD has same art style like original WW.



d21lewis said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because completely new Zelda will be $59 while HD port of old game cost only $10 dollars less!?

Don't get me wrong, I pre ordered TP HD, I just think WW HD and TP HD needs to have price of $40 not of $50.

Majora's Mask came out in 2000. It costs $39.  

 

What determines value?  The graphics? The budget? How much time it's been since release? How many hours of enjoyment you get from it?  In the past week or two, I purchased TWD Michonne ($15), Street Fighter V ($60), Gravity Rush ($40), Twilight Princessand($60), Resident Evil 0 ($20 and I still have the Gamecube version of this game, too!).  

Maybe it's just a port or cash grab but TPHD has jumped right to the top of my playlist and everything else is gathering dust. Some may feel it's overpriced but I'm definitely getting my $60 woth! I still have the Gamecube version and I'm still thanking God for the improvements we have, here!

I think I was pretty clear, IMO if completely new Zelda will have price of $60 I dont think that HD port of old game should have price of $50, its so simple. I understand if you don't agree.

 



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JNK said:
Volterra_90 said:

Okey, badly worded. I wanted to say "must not crush", not "must not touch". WWHD has some nice improvements on lightning and textures, but it's not far away from the original. It retains, and feels WW. While that dolphin TP doesn't look anything like the original TP. I meen, look at Kakariko village. It's completely different to the one on TP, and it certainly lacks... a lot. Some parts look good, but others are truly abismal. I prefer the texture rework in TPHD, tbh. And it would be impossible to make a game that looks like that with a very old engine, so... 

And, well, I really prefer to pay 50 bucks for TPHD than buy a rig and play the game in Dolphin.

 

I wont say its much different (imo at least).

Its still a shame to nintendo is some fans do an better job then your final product, no matter if an high end rig is more expensive or not.

Say what you want, but you cannot compare the limitations of a console with the PC, you need a high end computer to run TPHD on 1080p and all the texture/lightning mods you need with a stable framerate, where on console you have to use the power wisely and make huige optimization works, on PC you can do whatever you want, wether if looks like shit like most of them or do you need a super computer to play without problems that's another story.

Most mods are buggy, artisitically incoherent, plenty of really ugly corners etc This is however looks perfect, rus perfect and it comes with a bunch of improvements apart from the graphics.

I have a strong PC  yet I would NEVER, and I mean N-E-V-E-R, play TP on 1080p with mods on it because is a terrible experience, is extremely buggy, the framerate is sooo unestable, at 60fps the game is just broken, etc is terrible to play this kind of games in dolphin, people is always overrating so much that emulator my god... Everybody says "it looks better on dolphion" yet NO ONE plays it on dolphin because is shit for this kind of games.



Miyamotoo said:

You realise that is fan remake of TP, not original TP game runing thorugh dolphin!?

Its not a remake. Its the same game. its the same enginge. They just changed some things.



JNK said:
Miyamotoo said:

You realise that is fan remake of TP, not original TP game runing thorugh dolphin!?

Its not a remake. Its the same game. its the same enginge. They just changed some things.

Some things!? Looks totally different than original game, this is a remake not HD port.



Volterra_90 said:
JNK said:

thats probl not our eyes but our interpretation.

Its just some grass, it didnt feel vivid because of that to me. Kakariko is meant to be in the steppe, not desert right? Thats what my feeling are about it. a western steppe, not an oriental desert.

some grass is very commong for a steppe.

But it's non-existent on the original Kakariko Village, so it doesn't fell like Kakariko Village at all, and that's the point I'm making. 

TP is known by its dark and gritty atmosphere, you have to be certain to keep that if you're willing to do a remake. It would be my last answer, because in your other thread (which is locked now) you pretty much bashed Nintendo fans saying that half of us would say that WiiU games look better than XOne. We're Nintendo fans, not delusional. We know the hardware is weaker. So stop that BS.

I dont agree at all to your first point.

I just said that on youtube 99% of the comments are saying the dolphin version looks better or nintendos hd remaster "should had looked like this". The video has alot of thumbs up and almost no thumbs down. On the other hand on this forum people prefer the wii u version. So i guess people here arent objective, i already noticed this several times btw.



Miyamotoo said:
JNK said:

Its not a remake. Its the same game. its the same enginge. They just changed some things.

Some things!? Looks totally different than original game, this more remake not HD port.

its still the gamecube game emulated via dolphin.