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Azuren said:
SplendidSolis said:

Insiders on gaf  in the know with Sq uare say it was already being made and is being made for all platforms..MS didn;pt fund shit or it would nt be on PS4. Your posts here are embarassing. Sony even had it on their 2013 e3 show. TR didn;t need any money for budget, it ws allready fully funded by square, you are naive iof you think this was anything other then a desperate atrempt to get an uncharted like game as MS cannot make them theirself, Phil evensaid this.

Please don't muddy up this conversation with hate. 

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 



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SplendidSolis said:
Azuren said:

Please don't muddy up this conversation with hate. 

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 

"Your posts here are embarassing"? 

 

No, sir. This is not how to act on these forums. 



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Azuren said:
SplendidSolis said:

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 

"Your posts here are embarassing"? 

 

No, sir. This is not how to act on these forums. 

My apologies, but i've been a long time lurker and the post I quoted has a long history of out there posts always defending MS and crapping on sony, I got carried away, the rest of my post stands.



This is great news! I am wondering how well it will perform on PS4 later this year. I imagine Sony will advertise the shit out of their version considering how far the release will be from the X1, so it will be very interesting to see how it pans out.



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Dont forget the game was available at MS store for 9$ ,
so i assume many % coming from it (me and most of my friend got it at that time)

http://wccftech.com/rise-tomb-raider-9-windows-store/



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Bandorr said:
Azzanation said:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/square-enix-disappointed-by-sales-of-tomb-raider-wants-to-maximise-profits-during-development/

Sqaure were expecting 6m sales on the Reboot, and Square were not happy with the game sales. MS kept TR to be a major AAA title, while Sqaure were looking at other ways to produce TR and probably cutting the costs. If it wasnt for MS's funding TR might not be as good as it is today. The funding made sqaure make it a big AAA game and not cheapening out on us gamers.

As for SFV Sony did the exact same thing, they gave Capcon money to not only realease the game sooner but to also keep it off other platforms. Why is it ok for Sony to boycott competitors and MS arent? MS helped fund the development of RoTR which is why Sqaure allowed MS to have some of the benefits. Sounds fair to me doesnt it. If you paid with your own money to help develope a game wouldnt you want benefits? Both games are the same, they both took money to keep it off competitors platforms. Theres no right or wrong here. There both as low as each other.

If you think Sony did great with the SFV deal then you should be thankful to MS for allowing TR to maintain its AAA budget and giving us one of the best games last year.

Actually they were quite happy with the sales - when they hit 8.5 million.

Think of it this way - if Microsoft funded the game enough it only existed because of Microsoft - why is it on steam and ps4?

If the game existed without them funding it - then what is your point?

This is all speculations. We dont know what MS did with Sqaure. All we know is that Sqaure said MS is helping fund the development. No different to what Sony did with SFV. Reason why TR is probably coming out on all platforms is based off how much money they spent on it. Sony obviously spent more on SFV and we are talking about MS, there not picky on where there games go. Theres rumours claiming Rare's Replay might be coming to a Nintendo Platform.  

The more money spent on a game the more chance the game gains more quality. MS helped fund it which helps Square and Crystal produce RoTR. These inside deals Sony, MS and Nintendo make are complicated. They will never tell the world the truth behind it.

At the end of the day, both Sony and MS help fund the development of both games which leads to some exclusive rights except Sony keeps SFV and MS enjoyed a years exclusivness.

Why do i care? I dont, i game on PC, i get both anyway. My point is gamers are blinded by what they read and how it presents itself and not looking at the core of the subject. Sony might have said it in a nicer way then MS but its all the same thing. Just like Bayonetta 2 on WiiU.



Please add in digital, as the game didn't outsell the XB1 version in total.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Azuren said:
SplendidSolis said:

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 

"Your posts here are embarassing"? 

 

No, sir. This is not how to act on these forums. 

He's a flamingweizle alt...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Azzanation said:
Bandorr said:

Actually they were quite happy with the sales - when they hit 8.5 million.

Think of it this way - if Microsoft funded the game enough it only existed because of Microsoft - why is it on steam and ps4?

If the game existed without them funding it - then what is your point?

This is all speculations. We dont know what MS did with Sqaure. All we know is that Sqaure said MS is helping fund the development. No different to what Sony did with SFV. Reason why TR is probably coming out on all platforms is based off how much money they spent on it. Sony obviously spent more on SFV and we are talking about MS, there not picky on where there games go. Theres rumours claiming Rare's Replay might be coming to a Nintendo Platform.  

The more money spent on a game the more chance the game gains more quality. MS helped fund it which helps Square and Crystal produce RoTR. These inside deals Sony, MS and Nintendo make are complicated. They will never tell the world the truth behind it.

At the end of the day, both Sony and MS help fund the development of both games which leads to some exclusive rights except Sony keeps SFV and MS enjoyed a years exclusivness.

Why do i care? I dont, i game on PC, i get both anyway. My point is gamers are blinded by what they read and how it presents itself and not looking at the core of the subject. Sony might have said it in a nicer way then MS but its all the same thing. Just like Bayonetta 2 on WiiU.

Yet you dodge the question time, and time, and time.

If Microsoft funded tomb raider to the extent it only exist because of Microsoft -why it is on steam and coming to ps4?

If They didn't - then how is it similiar to street fighter?

Also Bayonetta isn't similiar to either. Bayonetta 2 is only on the wii U because Sony AND Microsoft turned them down. There was no money hatting at all, nintendo saved it.

To sum it up. 1) Bayonetta exist because nintendo supported it. 2) Street fighter exists (this early) because sony supported it. 3) Tomb raider would have already existed, and was delayed because of Microsoft.

edit: Also they are VERY picky of where their games go. Otherwise they would be on steam - not windows 10. Quantum? SSO? Dead rising? Ryse etc etc would be on playstation 4. They are exclusives - so of course Microsoft cares where they go.



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Azzanation said:
Bandorr said:

Actually they were quite happy with the sales - when they hit 8.5 million.

Think of it this way - if Microsoft funded the game enough it only existed because of Microsoft - why is it on steam and ps4?

If the game existed without them funding it - then what is your point?

This is all speculations. We dont know what MS did with Sqaure. All we know is that Sqaure said MS is helping fund the development. No different to what Sony did with SFV. Reason why TR is probably coming out on all platforms is based off how much money they spent on it. Sony obviously spent more on SFV and we are talking about MS, there not picky on where there games go. Theres rumours claiming Rare's Replay might be coming to a Nintendo Platform.  

The more money spent on a game the more chance the game gains more quality. MS helped fund it which helps Square and Crystal produce RoTR. These inside deals Sony, MS and Nintendo make are complicated. They will never tell the world the truth behind it.

At the end of the day, both Sony and MS help fund the development of both games which leads to some exclusive rights except Sony keeps SFV and MS enjoyed a years exclusivness.

Why do i care? I dont, i game on PC, i get both anyway. My point is gamers are blinded by what they read and how it presents itself and not looking at the core of the subject. Sony might have said it in a nicer way then MS but its all the same thing. Just like Bayonetta 2 on WiiU.

MS is not picky about where their games go?  Why did they bother to purchase the Gears IP when Gears 4 could have gone multiplat?  Why are no MS games other than Minecraft (only because it was already released multiplat) on anything other than X1 or WINDOWS store)?  Hell look at FF14, the reason that game is not on X1 is because they would not allow a shared network for cross play with PSN.  And as for Rare Replay, until it happens that is nothing but PR BS to look good.  Any of their other IPs that went multiplat they never owned and therefore had notl control over to begin with (example Mass Effect).

 

Look we get it, you hate Sony.  Some of your arguments are simply laughable though.  Though I will agree with you on one thing.  Sony made sure SFV would not go to X1, MS did not do the same with RotTR beyond being a timed exclusive.



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