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Azuren on 25 February 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

If we really want to pull 7th Gen into this, then the GwG options compared to Instant Game Collection options is a joke. But considering we're 8th Gen, let's just stick to that. 

And I did not have fun with Thief, nor did many others. Honestly, the only retail releases that are worth time are Ground Zeroes, Rayman, Black Flag, and Tomb Raider. Everything else on there was more or less "Eh, no one will buy them anyway. May as well give them away". As for great indies that are free on PS+, there are a bunch. Of the top of my head, Rogue Legacy, Tower of Guns, Dust, Apotheon, Grow Home, and Don't Starve all come to mind. 

Nah, I think 360's list looks good in comparison thanks to the entire Gears series, Halo: Reach, and many notable 3rd party games. But if you're crazy about indies and Sega Genesis games, I can't deny PS3 looks pretty awesome. :-p

You're very into this console war bullshit but I have PS3, PS4, Vita, 360, and X1 so clearly I enjoy something about all of them.

By the way, just a little while ago I went to my PS4 and just started download a bunch of the indie games I never tried. Quite honestly... don't think I'm gonna enjoy many of them. But I try them hoping I find a gem.

I'm more in the "Dragons Dogma/infamous" camp, but clearly all of those retail titles are all Genesis games and indies. 

 

And no, I just legitimately don't care for most of the amazing games that you have so much fun with. I mean, Thief was only a critical failure, but God forbid anyone agree with those critiques. Also, I'm not the one who came here and started comparing to GwG, I only came on here to remind people that it's thanks to these bad indies that we got something like Rocket League so popular and that being an indie doesn't mean it's a bad game. 

 

I recommend Nom Nom Galaxy. 



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Mr Puggsly on 25 February 2016
Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Nah, I think 360's list looks good in comparison thanks to the entire Gears series, Halo: Reach, and many notable 3rd party games. But if you're crazy about indies and Sega Genesis games, I can't deny PS3 looks pretty awesome. :-p

You're very into this console war bullshit but I have PS3, PS4, Vita, 360, and X1 so clearly I enjoy something about all of them.

By the way, just a little while ago I went to my PS4 and just started download a bunch of the indie games I never tried. Quite honestly... don't think I'm gonna enjoy many of them. But I try them hoping I find a gem.

I'm more in the "Dragons Dogma/infamous" camp, but clearly all of those retail titles are all Genesis games and indies. 

And no, I just legitimately don't care for most of the amazing games that you have so much fun with. I mean, Thief was only a critical failure, but God forbid anyone agree with those critiques. Also, I'm not the one who came here and started comparing to GwG, I only came on here to remind people that it's thanks to these bad indies that we got something like Rocket League so popular and that being an indie doesn't mean it's a bad game. 

I recommend Nom Nom Galaxy. 

Yeah, I played through both Dragon's Dogma and Infamous. Didn't care for Dogma but Infamous 1 and 2 were pretty good.

Thief was indeed a critical failure I stilled enjoy it. I may even play it again down the road. Meanwhile crap like Killzone: Shadow Fall scored better (a game I just completed the other day). I can't explain it. Nobody said all indie releases are bad, so stop exagerating.

I will try Nom Nom Galaxy tonight, I believe I downloaded it already.



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Azuren on 25 February 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

I'm more in the "Dragons Dogma/infamous" camp, but clearly all of those retail titles are all Genesis games and indies. 

And no, I just legitimately don't care for most of the amazing games that you have so much fun with. I mean, Thief was only a critical failure, but God forbid anyone agree with those critiques. Also, I'm not the one who came here and started comparing to GwG, I only came on here to remind people that it's thanks to these bad indies that we got something like Rocket League so popular and that being an indie doesn't mean it's a bad game. 

I recommend Nom Nom Galaxy. 

Yeah, I played through both Dragon's Dogma and Infamous. Didn't care for Dogma but Infamous 1 and 2 were pretty good.

Thief was indeed a critical failure I stilled enjoy it. I may even play it again down the road. Meanwhile crap like Killzone: Shadow Fall scored better (a game I just completed the other day). I can't explain it. Nobody said all indie releases are bad, so stop exagerating.

I will try Nom Nom Galaxy tonight, I believe I downloaded it already.

Dragon's Dogma is literally everything I want in an open-world ARPG.

 

And FPS in general tend to be disappointing. People put the genre on a pedestal, but it's really nothing more than an accurate way to shoot something in a video game. For this reason I tend to avoid them, and try not to include them in my lists. Especially Killzone. And no, no one directly said it, but it is implied heavily through all the moaning and groaning about more indies.

 

It's like Terraria had a baby with a bowl of soup that was addicted to strategy games. 



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Mr Puggsly on 25 February 2016
Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Yeah, I played through both Dragon's Dogma and Infamous. Didn't care for Dogma but Infamous 1 and 2 were pretty good.

Thief was indeed a critical failure I stilled enjoy it. I may even play it again down the road. Meanwhile crap like Killzone: Shadow Fall scored better (a game I just completed the other day). I can't explain it. Nobody said all indie releases are bad, so stop exagerating.

I will try Nom Nom Galaxy tonight, I believe I downloaded it already.

Dragon's Dogma is literally everything I want in an open-world ARPG.

And FPS in general tend to be disappointing. People put the genre on a pedestal, but it's really nothing more than an accurate way to shoot something in a video game. For this reason I tend to avoid them, and try not to include them in my lists. Especially Killzone. And no, no one directly said it, but it is implied heavily through all the moaning and groaning about more indies.

It's like Terraria had a baby with a bowl of soup that was addicted to strategy games. 

I hear ya, but if the exploration aspect of the game wasn't so slow and leveling grind. In my eyes it didn't live up to its potential. Critical reception wasn't amazing either.

Looking at my list of indie PS+ games by the way, Dust is one of my personal favorite indie games. I played it on 360, I assume its just fine on PS4.



Recently Completed: 
River City: Rival Showdown for 3DS (3/5) - River City: Tokyo Rumble for 3DS (4/5) - Zelda: BotW for Wii U (5/5) - Zelda: BotW for Switch (5/5) - Zelda: Link's Awakening for Switch (4/5) - Rage 2 for X1X (4/5) - Rage for 360 (3/5) - Streets of Rage 4 for X1/PC (4/5) - Gears 5 for X1X (5/5) - Mortal Kombat 11 for X1X (5/5) - Doom 64 for N64 (emulator) (3/5) - Crackdown 3 for X1S/X1X (4/5) - Infinity Blade III - for iPad 4 (3/5) - Infinity Blade II - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Infinity Blade - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Wolfenstein: The Old Blood for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Origins for X1 (3/5) - Uncharted: Lost Legacy for PS4 (4/5) - EA UFC 3 for X1 (4/5) - Doom for X1 (4/5) - Titanfall 2 for X1 (4/5) - Super Mario 3D World for Wii U (4/5) - South Park: The Stick of Truth for X1 BC (4/5) - Call of Duty: WWII for X1 (4/5) -Wolfenstein II for X1 - (4/5) - Dead or Alive: Dimensions for 3DS (4/5) - Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for X1 (3/5) - Halo Wars 2 for X1/PC (4/5) - Halo Wars: DE for X1 (4/5) - Tekken 7 for X1 (4/5) - Injustice 2 for X1 (4/5) - Yakuza 5 for PS3 (3/5) - Battlefield 1 (Campaign) for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Syndicate for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: MW Remastered for X1 (4/5) - Donkey Kong Country Returns for 3DS (4/5) - Forza Horizon 3 for X1 (5/5)

Azuren on 25 February 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

Dragon's Dogma is literally everything I want in an open-world ARPG.

And FPS in general tend to be disappointing. People put the genre on a pedestal, but it's really nothing more than an accurate way to shoot something in a video game. For this reason I tend to avoid them, and try not to include them in my lists. Especially Killzone. And no, no one directly said it, but it is implied heavily through all the moaning and groaning about more indies.

It's like Terraria had a baby with a bowl of soup that was addicted to strategy games. 

I hear ya, but if the exploration aspect of the game wasn't so slow and leveling grind. In my eyes it didn't live up to its potential. Critical reception wasn't amazing either.

Looking at my list of indie PS+ games by the way, Dust is one of my personal favorite indie games. I played it on 360, I assume its just fine on PS4.

I mean, it's got an 81 on metacritic. Not exactly bad. And the grind is pretty much over about 5 hours in. Everything past that is nothing because you can stack 10-fold arrow with explosive arrows and absolutely dominate everything in your way. And Dark Arisen gave a permanant fast-travel option, whereas the classic game had numerous single use items for fast travel. Really it's just that first playthrough that's just "omfg how do I do this?"

 

It would play just like the 360 version, except any points where the 360 might stutter likely don't translate to an 8th gen machine. Strider, Transistor, Apotheon, The Unfinished Swan, and Grow Home are all fantastic.



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Mr Puggsly on 26 February 2016
Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I hear ya, but if the exploration aspect of the game wasn't so slow and leveling grind. In my eyes it didn't live up to its potential. Critical reception wasn't amazing either.

Looking at my list of indie PS+ games by the way, Dust is one of my personal favorite indie games. I played it on 360, I assume its just fine on PS4.

I mean, it's got an 81 on metacritic. Not exactly bad. And the grind is pretty much over about 5 hours in. Everything past that is nothing because you can stack 10-fold arrow with explosive arrows and absolutely dominate everything in your way. And Dark Arisen gave a permanant fast-travel option, whereas the classic game had numerous single use items for fast travel. Really it's just that first playthrough that's just "omfg how do I do this?"

It would play just like the 360 version, except any points where the 360 might stutter likely don't translate to an 8th gen machine. Strider, Transistor, Apotheon, The Unfinished Swan, and Grow Home are all fantastic.

No, you're looking at the Dark Arisen review. That likely got better scores because it was reviewed by fans of the orignal release and it was also reviewed by less critics. Its the same with Destiny, Taken King was likely reviewed by people that kept playing it. Dark Arisen did fix a few things but it just made the game less of a slog.

I played a few indie games already, mostly the ones I wasn't familiar with. And I gotta say, some of this shit should only be a dollar. Some of these indie games feel like free phone games. That's what upsets people, Sony sometimes just buys cheap stuff for PS+.

The Vita PS+ games was pretty great at one point by the way.



Recently Completed: 
River City: Rival Showdown for 3DS (3/5) - River City: Tokyo Rumble for 3DS (4/5) - Zelda: BotW for Wii U (5/5) - Zelda: BotW for Switch (5/5) - Zelda: Link's Awakening for Switch (4/5) - Rage 2 for X1X (4/5) - Rage for 360 (3/5) - Streets of Rage 4 for X1/PC (4/5) - Gears 5 for X1X (5/5) - Mortal Kombat 11 for X1X (5/5) - Doom 64 for N64 (emulator) (3/5) - Crackdown 3 for X1S/X1X (4/5) - Infinity Blade III - for iPad 4 (3/5) - Infinity Blade II - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Infinity Blade - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Wolfenstein: The Old Blood for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Origins for X1 (3/5) - Uncharted: Lost Legacy for PS4 (4/5) - EA UFC 3 for X1 (4/5) - Doom for X1 (4/5) - Titanfall 2 for X1 (4/5) - Super Mario 3D World for Wii U (4/5) - South Park: The Stick of Truth for X1 BC (4/5) - Call of Duty: WWII for X1 (4/5) -Wolfenstein II for X1 - (4/5) - Dead or Alive: Dimensions for 3DS (4/5) - Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for X1 (3/5) - Halo Wars 2 for X1/PC (4/5) - Halo Wars: DE for X1 (4/5) - Tekken 7 for X1 (4/5) - Injustice 2 for X1 (4/5) - Yakuza 5 for PS3 (3/5) - Battlefield 1 (Campaign) for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Syndicate for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: MW Remastered for X1 (4/5) - Donkey Kong Country Returns for 3DS (4/5) - Forza Horizon 3 for X1 (5/5)

Azuren on 26 February 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

I mean, it's got an 81 on metacritic. Not exactly bad. And the grind is pretty much over about 5 hours in. Everything past that is nothing because you can stack 10-fold arrow with explosive arrows and absolutely dominate everything in your way. And Dark Arisen gave a permanant fast-travel option, whereas the classic game had numerous single use items for fast travel. Really it's just that first playthrough that's just "omfg how do I do this?"

It would play just like the 360 version, except any points where the 360 might stutter likely don't translate to an 8th gen machine. Strider, Transistor, Apotheon, The Unfinished Swan, and Grow Home are all fantastic.

No, you're looking at the Dark Arisen review. That likely got better scores because it was reviewed by fans of the orignal release and it was also reviewed by less critics. Its the same with Destiny, Taken King was likely reviewed by people that kept playing it. Dark Arisen did fix a few things but it just made the game less of a slog.

I played a few indie games already, mostly the ones I wasn't familiar with. And I gotta say, some of this shit should only be a dollar. Some of these indie games feel like free phone games. That's what upsets people, Sony sometimes just buys cheap stuff for PS+.

The Vita PS+ games was pretty great at one point by the way.

3 points doesn't take a game from good to bad. The Taken King for positive reviews because it changed a lot of the way how Destiny works. Dark Arisen got better reviews because of the improved load times, framerates, and content that could keep you playing long after you got the Platinum. 

 

No one said that every indie was great. There's one good one for every three, and if you've gone through more than three without hitting a good one, then you're skipping the good ones somewhere or just have different taste. 



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g911turbo on 26 February 2016
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
It just keeps getting worse and worse, holy shit.

This is what happens when a company is in the lead.  This is also why competition is good.



GamechaserBE on 26 February 2016
arcaneguyver said:
I'm trying to be empathetic here, but....nope, can't do it. Are people relying on a $50 service for their gaming choices rather than just buying what they want? That's like giving $20 to your parents and saying "get me a couple comics a month for the next year, your choice."

BROFORCE. The rest will be added to the library for later consumption.

Expectations. PS3 PS plus was pretty good, and now they have 2-3 times or even more ps plus subscriptions with PS4's popularity and yeah I don't like what they give away like they used to (ofcourse their were some good months).



arcaneguyver on 26 February 2016
GamechaserBE said:
arcaneguyver said:
I'm trying to be empathetic here, but....nope, can't do it. Are people relying on a $50 service for their gaming choices rather than just buying what they want? That's like giving $20 to your parents and saying "get me a couple comics a month for the next year, your choice."

BROFORCE. The rest will be added to the library for later consumption.

Expectations. PS3 PS plus was pretty good, and now they have 2-3 times or even more ps plus subscriptions with PS4's popularity and yeah I don't like what they give away like they used to (ofcourse their were some good months).

 

But how does anyone have expectations like that at this point? The games were "better" or perhaps more impressive when the service was super optional. But that ended years ago now.