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Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Not true and sometimes its the other way around.

It is true, and it's typically not the other way around. GwG's best titles are typically PS+ hand-me-downs.

No, not really. That has especially not been true since PS4 launched and Sony's offerings became indie focused. By the way, PS4 has only received about 3 retail releases. While X1 has had about 9 retail releases.

Before PS4 launched, Sony was better at giving away notable games because that was the only incentive to being a PS+ member. But now, they really don't give a shit because people subscribe for CoD, BF, Star Wars, Destiny, etc.

Also, GwG and PS+ don't share a vast majority of games. And as I stated before, there are definitely cases where PS+ got the "hand-me-downs."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_%28North_America%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games



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Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

It is true, and it's typically not the other way around. GwG's best titles are typically PS+ hand-me-downs.

No, not really. That has especially not been true since PS4 launched and Sony's offerings became indie focused. By the way, PS4 has only received about 3 retail releases. While X1 has had about 9 retail releases.

Before PS4 launched, Sony was better at giving away notable games because that was the only incentive to being a PS+ member. But now, they really don't give a shit because people subscribe for CoD, BF, Star Wars, Destiny, etc.

Also, GwG and PS+ don't share a vast majority of games. And as I stated before, there are definitely cases where PS+ got the "hand-me-downs."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_%28North_America%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games

You're right, there's not a whole lot of cross over. That said, PS3 just curb stomps everything in variety. None of the other three platforms have as much.

 

Your numbers, as just numbers, are also sound. But that 3 to 9 you have is a bit of a strange number to share, since only four of the retail releases on GwG are worth anything and only two on PS+ are worth anything. Counting retail releases just because they're retail leaves you open to trashy retail games (Thief, for example) and excludes digital gems like Rogue Legacy... Which doesn't seem fair.

 

However, it's clear you like the GwG offering more. Personally, the only game on there I would like that was also not available to PS+ was Black Flag, and I bought that game at launch anyway. On the other hand, I've been shown absolute marvels of gaming like Grow Home and Unfinished Swan that I otherwise wouldn't have given a second look because I didn't want to put money down on a potentially bland experience. And because of the cross buy function, the PS4 typically gets more than two games a month, so in spite of having more retail releases than PS+, I'm going to say I've been given a better experience with it than what GwG has offered. 



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I guess people agree with me - indie games are mostly garbage, which is why the lineup is getting so much hate.



Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, not really. That has especially not been true since PS4 launched and Sony's offerings became indie focused. By the way, PS4 has only received about 3 retail releases. While X1 has had about 9 retail releases.

Before PS4 launched, Sony was better at giving away notable games because that was the only incentive to being a PS+ member. But now, they really don't give a shit because people subscribe for CoD, BF, Star Wars, Destiny, etc.

Also, GwG and PS+ don't share a vast majority of games. And as I stated before, there are definitely cases where PS+ got the "hand-me-downs."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_%28North_America%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games

You're right, there's not a whole lot of cross over. That said, PS3 just curb stomps everything in variety. None of the other three platforms have as much.

Your numbers, as just numbers, are also sound. But that 3 to 9 you have is a bit of a strange number to share, since only four of the retail releases on GwG are worth anything and only two on PS+ are worth anything. Counting retail releases just because they're retail leaves you open to trashy retail games (Thief, for example) and excludes digital gems like Rogue Legacy... Which doesn't seem fair.

However, it's clear you like the GwG offering more. Personally, the only game on there I would like that was also not available to PS+ was Black Flag, and I bought that game at launch anyway. On the other hand, I've been shown absolute marvels of gaming like Grow Home and Unfinished Swan that I otherwise wouldn't have given a second look because I didn't want to put money down on a potentially bland experience. And because of the cross buy function, the PS4 typically gets more than two games a month, so in spite of having more retail releases than PS+, I'm going to say I've been given a better experience with it than what GwG has offered. 

I think all the retail releases are good or great on GwG. I genuinely had fun with Thief, but hey you have your own opinion.

I didn't say I like GwG better, however I do. Primarily because I am more partial to Xbox 360 games like Gears, Fable, Crackdown, etc. Also, X1 adds value to many 360 titles. I just mentioned the retail thing to show Sony's indie focus, but SOME games like Rouge Legacy are great.

In most cases though, I feel like a try an indie game for like 10 minutes and come to the conclusion, "this ain't for me."



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erm no. This is bad.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:

You're right, there's not a whole lot of cross over. That said, PS3 just curb stomps everything in variety. None of the other three platforms have as much.

Your numbers, as just numbers, are also sound. But that 3 to 9 you have is a bit of a strange number to share, since only four of the retail releases on GwG are worth anything and only two on PS+ are worth anything. Counting retail releases just because they're retail leaves you open to trashy retail games (Thief, for example) and excludes digital gems like Rogue Legacy... Which doesn't seem fair.

However, it's clear you like the GwG offering more. Personally, the only game on there I would like that was also not available to PS+ was Black Flag, and I bought that game at launch anyway. On the other hand, I've been shown absolute marvels of gaming like Grow Home and Unfinished Swan that I otherwise wouldn't have given a second look because I didn't want to put money down on a potentially bland experience. And because of the cross buy function, the PS4 typically gets more than two games a month, so in spite of having more retail releases than PS+, I'm going to say I've been given a better experience with it than what GwG has offered. 

I think all the retail releases are good or great on GwG. I genuinely had fun with Thief, but hey you have your own opinion.

I didn't say I like GwG better, however I do. Primarily because I am more partial to Xbox 360 games like Gears, Fable, Crackdown, etc. Also, X1 adds value to many 360 titles. I just mentioned the retail thing to show Sony's indie focus, but SOME games like Rouge Legacy are great.

In most cases though, I feel like a try an indie game for like 10 minutes and come to the conclusion, "this ain't for me."

If we really want to pull 7th Gen into this, then the GwG options compared to Instant Game Collection options is a joke. But considering we're 8th Gen, let's just stick to that. 

 

And I did not have fun with Thief, nor did many others. Honestly, the only retail releases that are worth time are Ground Zeroes, Rayman, Black Flag, and Tomb Raider. Everything else on there was more or less "Eh, no one will buy them anyway. May as well give them away". As for great indies that are free on PS+, there are a bunch. Of the top of my head, Rogue Legacy, Tower of Guns, Dust, Apotheon, Grow Home, and Don't Starve all come to mind. 



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Azuren said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think all the retail releases are good or great on GwG. I genuinely had fun with Thief, but hey you have your own opinion.

I didn't say I like GwG better, however I do. Primarily because I am more partial to Xbox 360 games like Gears, Fable, Crackdown, etc. Also, X1 adds value to many 360 titles. I just mentioned the retail thing to show Sony's indie focus, but SOME games like Rouge Legacy are great.

In most cases though, I feel like a try an indie game for like 10 minutes and come to the conclusion, "this ain't for me."

If we really want to pull 7th Gen into this, then the GwG options compared to Instant Game Collection options is a joke. But considering we're 8th Gen, let's just stick to that. 

And I did not have fun with Thief, nor did many others. Honestly, the only retail releases that are worth time are Ground Zeroes, Rayman, Black Flag, and Tomb Raider. Everything else on there was more or less "Eh, no one will buy them anyway. May as well give them away". As for great indies that are free on PS+, there are a bunch. Of the top of my head, Rogue Legacy, Tower of Guns, Dust, Apotheon, Grow Home, and Don't Starve all come to mind. 

Nah, I think 360's list looks good in comparison thanks to the entire Gears series, Halo: Reach, and many notable 3rd party games. But if you're crazy about indies and Sega Genesis games, I can't deny PS3 looks pretty awesome. :-p

You're very into this console war bullshit but I have PS3, PS4, Vita, 360, and X1 so clearly I enjoy something about all of them.

By the way, just a little while ago I went to my PS4 and just started download a bunch of the indie games I never tried. Quite honestly... don't think I'm gonna enjoy many of them. But I try them hoping I find a gem.



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I don't see why people are complaining. Ever since paying for internet was mandatory for online play, it was obvious the overall quality of the offerings in PS+ was going to take a hit, in comparison to the Ps3. In fact, Sony could simply stop offering games altogether, eat the backlash and keep rolling with it; I bet their PS+ user numbers would hardly be altered.

 

Broforce is decent, by the way. You can have some fun co-op with it.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
It just keeps getting worse and worse, holy shit.

Just when you think they have hit the bottom... they still manage to surprise us! I'm really disappointed.



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