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Did Street Fighter V bomb?

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No 256 39.57%
 
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Dravenet7 said:
naruball said:

Lol at that spin. Keep it up. Also, your signature betrays your intentions.

No more now now? :/ 

Anyway, you can call it a spin all you want, it diisproves nothing.

What were my intentions? Curious how my sig betrays anything.

Speaking of my sig, I explained why its there in this thread where I discuss fighting games http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=213962&page=1#. I invite you to look at it. 

No need for "now now". You copied it enought times. I thought if I stopped using it, maybe you'd come up with something of your own ;)

Also:

"That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. 

Not really. "That" referred to the price that Nem posted. Only in Europe it cost 38€. Not in America or Japan or anywhere else. I made a comparison only between America and Europe. Nowhere did I say anything about Japan or the rest of the world. You decided to misinterpret my statement for it to fit your narrative. 

Also, keep in mind that when someone mentions that a game costs x amount, they don't tend  to state how much it costs in USD, British Pounds, Euros, yen, yuan etc. One currency is enough. So, Nem's statement gives the impression that it was similarly priced across the board (i.e. lower than normal), unlike Street Fighter. He didn't mention that that was the price in Europe. He made a general statement.I clarified that with a link to the launch price in America.

I didn't try to downplay anything. If anything, you did by pretending like America is not wiiu's biggest market with almost half of its sales coming from there. Same with Splatoon. It's sold best in America where it cost the most.

As for the link that you provided, I did read what you said and for that I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.



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naruball said:

No need for "now now". You copied it enought times. I thought if I stopped using it, maybe you'd come up with something of your own ;)

Also:

"That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. 

Not really. "That" referred to the price that Nem posted. Only in Europe it cost 38€. Not in America or Japan or anywhere else. I made a comparison only between America and Europe. Nowhere did I say anything about Japan or the rest of the world. You decided to misinterpret my statement for it to fit your narrative. 

Also, keep in mind that when someone mentions that a game costs x amount, they don't tend  to state how much it costs in USD, British Pounds, Euros, yen, yuan etc. One currency is enough. So, Nem's statement gives the impression that it was similarly priced across the board (i.e. lower than normal), unlike Street Fighter. He didn't mention that that was the price in Europe. He made a general statement.I clarified that with a link to the launch price in America.

I didn't try to downplay anything. If anything, you did by pretending like America is not wiiu's biggest market with almost half of its sales coming from there. Same with Splatoon. It's sold best in America where it cost the most.

As for the link that you provided, I did read what you said and for that I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tbh mate it's not that he misinterpreted your posts that's how they're coming across especially with your comment on Europe, he also didn't even downplay America at all, in Japan Splatoon is at a similar price to Europe. Nem said pretty much the same thing 7 or so other people in the thread did.



Wyrdness said:
naruball said:

No need for "now now". You copied it enought times. I thought if I stopped using it, maybe you'd come up with something of your own ;)

Also:

"That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. 

Not really. "That" referred to the price that Nem posted. Only in Europe it cost 38€. Not in America or Japan or anywhere else. I made a comparison only between America and Europe. Nowhere did I say anything about Japan or the rest of the world. You decided to misinterpret my statement for it to fit your narrative. 

Also, keep in mind that when someone mentions that a game costs x amount, they don't tend  to state how much it costs in USD, British Pounds, Euros, yen, yuan etc. One currency is enough. So, Nem's statement gives the impression that it was similarly priced across the board (i.e. lower than normal), unlike Street Fighter. He didn't mention that that was the price in Europe. He made a general statement.I clarified that with a link to the launch price in America.

I didn't try to downplay anything. If anything, you did by pretending like America is not wiiu's biggest market with almost half of its sales coming from there. Same with Splatoon. It's sold best in America where it cost the most.

As for the link that you provided, I did read what you said and for that I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tbh mate it's not that he misinterpreted your posts that's how they're coming across especially with your comment on Europe, he also didn't even downplay America at all, in Japan Splatoon is at a similar price to Europe. Nem said pretty much the same thing 7 or so other people in the thread did.

You know what? I'm just gonna drop it here, because no matter what, people will continue to believe whatever they want to believe. Even when they are biased, they can't even admit it to themselves (yes, this applies to everyone, myself included in some cases, I'm sure). So no point dicussing it even futher.



naruball said:

No need for "now now". You copied it enought times. I thought if I stopped using it, maybe you'd come up with something of your own ;)

Also:

"That was only  in Europe " is misinformation. 

Not really. "That" referred to the price that Nem posted. Only in Europe it cost 38€. Not in America or Japan or anywhere else. I made a comparison only between America and Europe. Nowhere did I say anything about Japan or the rest of the world. You decided to misinterpret my statement for it to fit your narrative. 

Also, keep in mind that when someone mentions that a game costs x amount, they don't tend  to state how much it costs in USD, British Pounds, Euros, yen, yuan etc. One currency is enough. So, Nem's statement gives the impression that it was similarly priced across the board (i.e. lower than normal), unlike Street Fighter. He didn't mention that that was the price in Europe. He made a general statement.I clarified that with a link to the launch price in America.

I didn't try to downplay anything. If anything, you did by pretending like America is not wiiu's biggest market with almost half of its sales coming from there. Same with Splatoon. It's sold best in America where it cost the most.

As for the link that you provided, I did read what you said and for that I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Darn well you got me there. I had several things but nothing that fits.

I almost gave you this point, but the problem here lies with what you said: "Only in Europe it cost 38€. Not in America or Japan or anywhere else. I made a comparison only between America and Europe. Nowhere did I say anything about Japan or the rest of the world."  Whilst you can say Nem's original statement gives the interpretation that its 38€, which is why I almost gave you this point, your orignal remark to him doesn't clarify that its only in Europe. All it does is designate that the U.S. version is priced at standard full retail and state that what Nem said is misnformation. This just as easily leaves room for misinterpretation that Nem is wrong and its only priced at full price retail. If you really wanted to clarify any misinformation, you could have just as easily said, "That's only in Europe, different regions have different price points." 

You have a point about Nem making a generalized statement, can't argue that.

I never pretended that anything, nor did I imply that America isn't the Wii U's biggest market. I did however make an error that no longer properly clarifies this. I sometimes have poor choice of words. ("Espcially since the their lack of content/ free updates are not only allegedly the same, but the regions in which will buy their [systems] are pretty much  in the same condition?") There I meant to write games instead of systems (obviously the PS4 is more than A-ok), which at that point quite clearly implies that I recognize that Europe isn't a key point in sales. What is also there, and quite clearly, is the reason I bring up the Europe market downplay: if your justification of the reduced price of Splatoon in Europe is the lower Wii U systems sales and thus proportionally their games, then is there no reference to the fact that Street Fighter among other fighting games sells significantly better than Europe and Japn as well and why is there point that it should be reduced price in those regions granted my previous comparison of Splatoon and SFV? Unless there is a signficant reason why, then there is no real justification in the Europe sales/reduced price point, if it doesn't work both ways.

*EDIT just saw your last post after posting afterwriting all this






Dravenet7 said:
 

 

*EDIT just saw your last post after posting afterwriting all this




Hahaha. Perfect use of a gif.

Gotta admit, your argumentation was brilliant. Props for that.



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naruball said:

Hahaha. Perfect use of a if.

Gotta admit, your argumentation was brilliant. Props for that.

Lol thanks. Likewise, your points certainly made it hard to bring up a counter argument.



^^ I wish all arguments/debates can end in that fashion. Kudos gentlemen!



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Jazz2K said:
Fear_Me_All said:
Give capcom a break, Killer Instinct did the same it was release 1/3 done and still since they give update.
Now season 3 will be release.

So instead of complain and if your a fighting game fan, buy the game to show support so capcom can bring more character and goodie (like killer instinct did and still do) and enjoy all new content that will be release during the course of the next 2 year. (just like Killer Instinct did).

You could compare it to KI but SFV woud have to cost 20$ at release or being free with one character available. Which it's not. 60$ is the kind of price you want to pay for a complete game, which it's not. In some time it'll be worth the 60$ but right now you can't blame people for not wanting to spend so much for so little. 

I have always supported Street Fighter but now it's like Capcom did everything to make sure I don't.

Actually you can compare the two. As threadbare as SFV is, it still has far more content than KI did at launch. KI launched with 5 characters. SFV has 16. I think people are forgetting how content poor KI was at launch.



Darc Requiem said:
Jazz2K said:

You could compare it to KI but SFV woud have to cost 20$ at release or being free with one character available. Which it's not. 60$ is the kind of price you want to pay for a complete game, which it's not. In some time it'll be worth the 60$ but right now you can't blame people for not wanting to spend so much for so little. 

I have always supported Street Fighter but now it's like Capcom did everything to make sure I don't.

Actually you can compare the two. As threadbare as SFV is, it still has far more content than KI did at launch. KI launched with 5 characters. SFV has 16. I think people are forgetting how content poor KI was at launch.

But wasnt KI kind of..... Free? At least free to try with one rotating character. I laid down the money for the Ultra version with all of the characters, DLC, and a copy of KI Arcade from 1994, though.  I personally prefer SF though I don't own it, yet but I think KI was reasonable for its cost.



Darc Requiem said:
Jazz2K said:

You could compare it to KI but SFV woud have to cost 20$ at release or being free with one character available. Which it's not. 60$ is the kind of price you want to pay for a complete game, which it's not. In some time it'll be worth the 60$ but right now you can't blame people for not wanting to spend so much for so little. 

I have always supported Street Fighter but now it's like Capcom did everything to make sure I don't.

Actually you can compare the two. As threadbare as SFV is, it still has far more content than KI did at launch. KI launched with 5 characters. SFV has 16. I think people are forgetting how content poor KI was at launch.

Game was free or 20$... people even said the game would be of lower quality because it was free...