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Do YOU want Zelda Wii U being on NX

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JNK said:
JRPGfan said:

Wii U support and games developement will drop off a cliff... like always happends with nintendo consoles, once a new one launches.

Unless you really love splatoon & smash, theres not that much a draw back too it, if your the type that sells the old console to help fund the new.

IMO there are many games on Wii U that I will pick and play even in years. 

Like Mario Kart 8 and Smash. Like Splatoon.

Like the Zelda remasters (definitive version of 2 zelda games on that system).

Im even playing Black Ops 2 locally with friends on that system pretty often. Just because New CODs on ps4 dont support 4 player local and on wiiu in 2 player local everybody got his own screen.

That thing is the perfect local multiplayer machine. So far I really dont see even I reason why I should trade this for an NX with 2-3 games in the first year I might be interested in and one of those games will be on the wii u as well.

In holiday 2016 i will probl play Final Fantasy 15, Zelda Wii U, Kingdom Come Deliverance, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect Andromeda, Horizon Zero Dawn...

So i wont even have time to play the NX lineup and i highly doubt the NX lineup could compete with that list.

Its weird but I dont feel that way at all about my Wii U...

I dont have splatoon, and I dont really enjoy smash much. I liked Mario kart but... I dont wanna be playing that years from now.

The games that would make me consider keeping it would be something like Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.

Im thinking i ll just put it towards financeing the NX instead.



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Miyamotoo said:

When was TP doesnt matter, point is same.

Nope times are changing. In 2006 Zelda was very popular and didnt had that much competition, especially on consoles. Zelda Wii U will have hard competition (Witcher 3, Final Fantasy 15 and co are all pretty similar games in terms of setting, open world and co. In terms of graphics even superior).

Most people buyed Wii because of Motion Controls, but some people buyed Wii because TP. I know for reports that on Wii launch Wii TP was sold everywhere.

See above. Most people got the console because of the gimmicky controls and then obviously needed a game. And Twilight Princess was probl the best launch title.

Also TP was that realistic looking Zelda game everybody waited for. Zelda Wii U is cartoony, similar to Windwaker. And that got released early in GC lifecycle and sold 4,6m lifetime. And the GC flopped anyway. And at that time Zelda was even much more popular, had less competition and Windwaker was exclusive on the Gamecube. Now you wanna tell me Zelda Wii U as a cross gen title will make the NX sell like hotcakes?

Skyward Sword is just one and pretty bad example, because arrived on dead platform and needed addon or different controller to be played. Also Skyward Sword sold 4m not 3m.

And Zelda Wii U on NX should be better? it will be available on 13 mio wii us (where the hardcore nintendo fanbase is atm at). It will not only need a complete new controller, it will need a complete new console. Why should people not bought a wii motion + for zelda skyward sword, but buy a 300-500 bucks console for zelda wii u on nx?

If NX will be success part of that success will definitely be because of great launch with great launch lineup including Zelda U, same like part of credit of great launch for Wii has TP.

The Wii would be a sucess even without Zelda. 



JRPGfan said:

Its weird but I dont feel that way at all about my Wii U...

I dont have splatoon, and I dont really enjoy smash much. I liked Mario kart but... I dont wanna be playing that years from now.

The games that would make me consider keeping it would be something like Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.

Im thinking i ll just put it towards financeing the NX instead.

Well tastes are different. You should probl sell the wii u as soon as possible though, chances are high that the priece will drop soon.



If it's a better version then yes obviously I would want it on NX and being the best version it could be, especially since I'll have to wait 5 years for another Zelda. If it's not a better version than it makes no difference to me personally, but I would still want it to be on NX to give people a reason to buy NX.



I'm never getting a Wii U, so yes, I'd want it on the NX.



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JNK said:

Consider this:

- Porting takes time and ressources. Games like Twilight Princess HD tooked around 2 years to port (they started anytime in 2014). Zelda wii u port will most likely be done by the zelda team themself (they wont outsource such a project, no way). So the time they are using now on Zelda port, they could put directly into the next zelda. Result: Zelda Wii U on NX will delay the next zelda for around 1 year (because they will "waste" their time with an port)

Porting from PowerPC to X86: http://www.destructoid.com/naughty-dog-porting-the-last-of-us-to-ps4-was-hell-275048.phtml

- If they port Zelda Wii U to NX and the NX will be a success, they will probl do the same to the next zelda. Any Nintendo console will be started with an new Zelda game. So the next Zelda game would also be on the NX successor (5-6 year development time = console cycle). This means the nx (in terms of zelda games) will probl be very useless.

- Most of us own a Wii U anyway. So getting the game on the wii u is not a problem. For those who dont own a wii u, it will probl make much more sense to get a wii u for zelda at NX launch. Even with an strong lineup, NX wouldnt had any chance to compete with the Wii U´s current lineup. Also the wii u will probl drop in priece when NX releases. Keep in mind, you have Smash, mario kart, mario 3D world, Mario Maker, Bayonetta 2, Pokken Tournament, Star Fox Zero, Xenoblade X, Splatoon and much more on the wii u. Even with a strong lineup, the NX could never compete against that. It will probl take around 2 years till the NX will have an as good game lineup as the wii u currently have.

 

So even if it would make sense for nintendo to port the game (more sales, better NX sales), it wouldnt make sense for us custormers/nintendo fans.

Thats why I think they should find other ways to sell Zelda on Wii U and to sell the NX (other new games, third party support).

 

BTW: Zelda Wii U on NX wouldnt even do AS MUCH. Skyward Sword sold just 3 mio copies on the wii, and that system already have an 100mio installed hw base. So do you really expects millions of gamers will go and buy the NX just to play the next Zelda? 97% of the Wii owners didnt even bought the last zelda, and they had the hardware to play it. The masses wont buy an NX to play an game thats also available on the wii u.

Zelda Wii U on NX will probl sell less consoles then Mario Kart 8 sold Wii Us.

 

If Nintendo were to port Zelda Wii U to the NX, this is not a waste of time as you claim. Why? Porting is not as difficult as you make it out to be. The reason why The Last of Us was difficult to port, is because the PS3 had difficult architecture to program for. Naughty Dog were used to programming for the PS3, and hell they absolutely nailed that system's specs. The PS4 on the other hand has much different architecture. It is easier to make games for, however, carrying over a PS3 title and adapting the code to function on the PS4 is a whole different matter. This is one of the reasons why the PS4 does not have backwards compatibility with PS3 titles.

As for Zelda being ported to the NX - what makes it a good idea? It will give the Zelda team experience with the NX hardware. They will be used to HD development at this point (theoretically), which should make the transition to the NX all the more easier. This will make further development on the platform more versatile as they will have had experience with programming and development on that platform.




Now you made points about Skyward Sword only selling 3 million units, VG Chartz has it at over 4 million units, and even then many people believe that it could possibly be undertracked. While this is not much for a console that sold over 100 million units, one must also consider that Skyward Sword was released on the Wii's last legs. The Wii was dying and quite barren at this point. Many people had moved on. One must also factor that Motion Plus was required to play this game. Not everyone who owned a Wii had Motion Plus controllers or the accessory for that matter.



Hiku said:
JNK said:

Yes same, but on the other hand they will put time and ressources in a game/port we wiiu-buyers wouldnt care a bit about. Keep in mind, without a port they would had more time to enhance the wii u version or already starting on the next zelda game (sooner releases). So it would be an disadvantage for us. If they do the Wii U Port, the next Zelda game would probl released in 2022 instead of 2021 without the wii u port (because they could already started development for "zelda nx").

Shouldn't consideration for Nintendo's situation also be a factor in this though?
As a WiiU owner, don't you want Nintendo to succeed as much as possible to enable more great games in the future?
They've lost most of the third party support they had with WiiU, and no matter how many they realistically get on board for the NX launch, it will mostly be up to Nintendo themselves to come out with a great launch lineup this time around. And Zelda would really help with that.

Well I would prefer them releasing a brand new zelda game when NX launches 2017/2018. 

They would have need to start with a new team (they really need more developer teams anyway) some years ago though.

A Zelda Wii U Port wont help much anyway. Zelda is not AS popular, especially not a cartoony looking one. Skyward Sword and Windwaker both didnt do that well, I dont see people buying NX just for Zelda (if its also available on wii u!)



RolStoppable said:
Hiku said:

Shouldn't consideration for Nintendo's situation also be a factor in this though?
As a WiiU owner, don't you want Nintendo to succeed as much as possible to enable more great games in the future?

No, as Wii U owners it's our obligation to wish Nintendo the worst of luck with NX and once the system has failed, we'll begrudgingly welcome back a Nintendo that crawls back to us and makes more Wii U games. We are the only true fans, we demand what we deserve and we will get what we deserve.

They still can go third party, I wouldnt mind. There is no place for a console without third party support at this time anymore. If they dont manage to compete with ps4 and xbox one again (powerfull hardware, good third party relationships) they probl stop making consoles.



If people is fine with Twilight Princess Wii delay, Zelda HD silence and nonsense delay, and content locked on a toy for a 10 yo remaster, they are going to be ok when Aonuma admits that the new game was delayed in favor of a NX version.



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Toxy said:

If Nintendo were to port Zelda Wii U to the NX, this is not a waste of time as you claim. Why? Porting is not as difficult as you make it out to be. The reason why The Last of Us was difficult to port, is because the PS3 had difficult architecture to program for. Naughty Dog were used to programming for the PS3, and hell they absolutely nailed that system's specs. The PS4 on the other hand has much different architecture. It is easier to make games for, however, carrying over a PS3 title and adapting the code to function on the PS4 is a whole different matter. This is one of the reasons why the PS4 does not have backwards compatibility with PS3 titles.

Wii U uses PowerPC chip (Ps3s cell chip was PowerPC as well). Its not easy to develop for that chip (see multiple third party failures on wii u).

Ps4 uses x86 CPU. NX will probl also use that. I doubt they will stick to Power PC.

Nintendo EAD 3 dont have any expierence with x86 chips as well.

Nintendo is also pushing the wii u to its limits with Zelda Wii U. probl even more then last of us did.

And you calling it not the same situation?

As for Zelda being ported to the NX - what makes it a good idea? It will give the Zelda team experience with the NX hardware. They will be used to HD development at this point (theoretically), which should make the transition to the NX all the more easier. This will make further development on the platform more versatile as they will have had experience with programming and development on that platform.

Good point.


Not everyone who owned a Wii had Motion Plus controllers or the accessory for that matter.

So people are that interested in Zelda that they arnt getting a Wii Motion plus to play the latest game, but they will buy a completle new console releases mid cycle to play zelda? Seems logical.