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Are you disappointed, Xbox-Console-Fans?

yes =( goodbye xbox1 261 34.52%
 
Yes of course!Damn Microsoft! 65 8.60%
 
A little bit 57 7.54%
 
I do not care 141 18.65%
 
I think..no.. 33 4.37%
 
No/exclusive games are not important to me. 46 6.08%
 
see results 153 20.24%
 
Total:756
Normchacho said:
So guys, can we take a second and talk about how much Crapgamer is freaking out over this? It's amazing. Jesus, you'd think he was cheated on.

https://twitter.com/The_CrapGamer/with_replies

"Microsoft makes around 3 billion per year off Xbox Live subs. Not a chance it goes free. Console gamers subsidize PC gamers now."

I like how he's being hypocritical considering Micosoft was with PC gamers first, then came the XBox and MS abandoned their original market in favour of their second one. Now the tables are turning and he doesn't like it. It still amazes me how there are even Xbox gamers who praise MS yet loathe their main original platform, the one that makes them their games to note at that.



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Machiavellian said:
JRPGfan said:
It makes it easier to go Playstation + PC route.... imo.

Correction: Playstation + Windows 10 route.  MS thanks you for the upgrade and the support.

You mean the free upgrade from Windows 7/8 that Microsoft gave all owners?  lol.



ZyroXZ2 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Narrative implies fiction rather than fact, a game on multiple platforms reduces the need for the platforms that can play this game. The only way this isn't true is if you have significantly different versions and all that does is skew things even further rather than balance them. Even if you didn't have a PC or an XB1, its a fact that the game being on both platforms, saves you a choice from making either.

I think you overexaggerate the importance of graphical fidelity/performance on PC gaming, and I don't blame you the graphics/performance enthusiasts are a vocal minority. Especially when we consider this from a budgetary perspective, if you've got a medium spec PC, wouldn't it be cheaper to get a 60$ game Vs. 60$ game + 299$ console? It doesn't need to exceed graphical fidelity/performance, unless that's something the consumer cares about. 

The reason consoles are still a thing is because they hit that ever shrinking sweet spot of graphics/performance, price, and ease of use, and PC/Mobile is closing it in from all sides.

Yeah there is a hate bandwagon, but that doesn't mean legitmate concerns should be ignored, and hell all that does is inflate the bandwagon.

The thing is: the PS4 stands as a sales example that people this generation DO care about gaming graphics/performance and in a large enough quantity to NOT be a vocal minority.  Otherwise, they'd have bought a lot more Xbox One's for its $50 cheaper price tag (up until the PS4's recent price drop of sorts), and vast majority of identical 3rd party games.  At this point in time, the PS4's exclusive library is still not the best and definitely not stronger than the Xbox One's right now, as many of its "exclusive" titles are either also on PS3, Vita, and/or PC.  That PS4 is selling off good marketing, and that marketing is that it's the "best place to play", and anyone looking at what this represents in the gaming space is those dazzling graphics, not a library of games people can't get anywhere else.

At the same time, the vast majority of PC gamers are, indeed, using mid-range hardware.  But PC gamers who care about graphics are not a vocal minority: we may be a minority in comparison to how many PC gamers have PCs that can pump out higher graphical settings, but if you've spent enough time in the PC gaming community, you'd know how important being able to "run" a game on "decent" settings is.  In fact, I haven't even seen any PC gamers ever say, "I just want to be able to play it smoothly on the lowest settings".  Graphics matter to PC gamers more than console gamers since we have the power to change what we get out of them, but the number of us who can crank them up are, indeed, a minority.

You misunderstand. Not only that but PS4 has been cheaper or equal to the XB1 for most of the generation. My post doesn't really concern PS4 vs XB1, but rather console vs PC, and why its a fact that sharing games between the two does in fact harm the value of the console with regard to its exclusive library extending to its sales. Microsoft is throwing the XB1 under the bus, bolstering the Windows Store, W10, and the game sales over the sales of the XB1. That's undenaible, and if you were a fan of the Original Xbox. this is obvious. After all, we went through this already.

People who buy consoles do it for a variety of reasons:

Considering the standpoint of gfx/performance, the people who buy consoles exist in the middle. They still care about money but have care enough about gfx/performance to buy a console for it, not to mention brand, popularity, ease of use and other figures.

PC constitutes both ends, those who care about gfx/performance so much so that it exceeds their concern for money on one end of the spectrum, and those who care more about deals and money and less about gfx/performance on the other. Its not that if you can't afford a console, you can't afford to game period. Something like Undertale could run on the PS2.



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Microsoft, lost a good exclusive for Xbox One, had like 1.5 Millions of players who purchased Alan Wake on PC (more than the Xbox 360 version), that could be possible costumers for Xbox One, now will stay on PC, this hurt Xbox sales, and give less third party support for Xbox One.

Nintendo, will not release 3DS Games on Smart Phones, this will not hurt their console sales, the mobile games will only bring more people for their consoles.

Sony, with the Computer Gaming division that they sold, were making game that appel for PC Only, like Everquest, Planet Side, H1 Z1, DC Universe, and this don't hurt Playstation sales.

but Microsoft, is releasing the most anticipated new ip that Xbox One, have, also for PC (Quantum Break, is the most, because Scalebound, is a japanese game, and Recore, don't even have gameplay footage yet).



kowenicki said:
Games to become a service available on multiple devices shocker...

People don't get this yet? Really?

Games as a Service is a plague.

*Online Multiplayer and MMOs are the only legitmate excuses.



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MS should just announce their games as windows exclusive, should of been like this from 2013.



Azuren said:
Azzanation said:

Alot of fanboys might feel as if this is a blow to MS because one of there brands is losing out but one thing they dont realise is that buying QB is still supporting the Xbox gaming Devision and Remedy which deserves more then being locked away on a plastic box. Pity Sony or Nintendo dont care to much for there own inner companies. More sales leads to more profits. XB1 will still sell more units then the PC release just like history has always been

Apart from being just an Xbox Exclusive lets applaud MS for delivering great games into this industry. Quantum Break looks set to be one of the best games this year.

It has my wallet open. Well done.

This is a desperate rationalization. The fact of the matter is that this benefits A Microsoft studio, but not Xbox. As a PS4/WiiU/Vita/3DS/PC owner, I don't have to buy an Xbox to play this game, where otherwise I would have to add to XB1's sale count.

 

It's simply not exclusive anymore. Just like SFV isn't exclusive. No amount of "No, Microsoft wins because PC is Microsoft" will detract from the fact that I have lost a reason to buy an XB1.

You still dont get it do you. QB sells under the Xbox Devision wheather you buy it for PC or not. The sales and profits dont go to MS but to Xbox so your still contributing to the brand and its end of year results. MS might not see a hardware sale but they dont have to, the console has sold 20m units and continue. Gamers like yourself never intended to buy an Xbox in the first place so MS are being smarter and still able to take your money without buying there console.

There is no money in console sales however there profits come from Software and your still supporting Xbox since game sales come under that Devision. 

Im a PC gamer myself and i still own an Xbox because of many other reasons. QB will still be an X1 purchase for me even though my PC can run it better.



I don't think it really matters if it is on PC. That's part of the microsoft family. It would be like saying it sucks for Nintendo fans that you can also play smash on the 3ds so it's not a wiiu exclusive.



Chazore said:
Normchacho said:
So guys, can we take a second and talk about how much Crapgamer is freaking out over this? It's amazing. Jesus, you'd think he was cheated on.

https://twitter.com/The_CrapGamer/with_replies

"Microsoft makes around 3 billion per year off Xbox Live subs. Not a chance it goes free. Console gamers subsidize PC gamers now."

I like how he's being hypocritical considering Micosoft was with PC gamers first, then came the XBox and MS abandoned their original market in favour of their second one. Now the tables are turning and he doesn't like it. It still amazes me how there are even Xbox gamers who praise MS yet loathe their main original platform, the one that makes them their games to note at that.

Yeah, one of my favorite PC games is a Microsoft studio game. People do seem to forget that PC is where MS really started getting involved with games.

 

He'll, Halo: CE was on PC.



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bowserthedog said:

I don't think it really matters if it is on PC. That's part of the microsoft family. It would be like saying it sucks for Nintendo fans that you can also play smash on the 3ds so it's not a wiiu exclusive.

Actually, having Smash on the 3ds does give people less of a reason to buy a Wii U.

 

It's not bad for Nintendo, since they're still selling the game either way. But it would have an effect on Wii U sales.



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