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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2016 NPD Thread! PS4 #1

Still no NPD numbers? Sigh........



                
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AZWification said:

Still no NPD numbers? Sigh........

Sad.  All we had is Sony saying PS4 YOY growth was impressive, which leads me to believe it's at 215K or more.  And for MS to bust out the hours of gameplay WW for a statement about US sales, leads me to believe sales are down quite a bit YOY.  Possibly 115K or less.  We already know Nintendo consoles are down, so probably means 65K for 3DS and 40K for Wii U.  It also means New 3DS was a failure at stopping the decline of 3DS sales.  Doesn't bold well with Nintendo banking on combining their HH and home markets when both are doing poorly.



mornelithe said:

There's some kind of issue between gaf and vchartz, I'm not 100% familiar with the situation, though.

It's just blind, childish hate. I got banned a while back for mentioning this site's forums. It didn't matter how many times I kept saying there are people here who doubt the actual numbers as much as GAF, all anyone replied to me was 'keep that shit out of here.' I then got into a conversation about the community here and pointed out the forums are made of 'people' just like GAF and that lots of those people are decent individuals and just as inteligent as anyone on GAF. Did reminding those over at GAF the VGC forums is made up of people make a difference ... Nope. Just post after post of 'keep that shit out of here' and 'these juniors are funny'. Too many people over there think they're special and they really aren't.



 

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thismeintiel said:
AZWification said:

Still no NPD numbers? Sigh........

Sad.  All we had is Sony saying PS4 YOY growth was impressive, which leads me to believe it's at 215K or more.  And for MS to bust out the hours of gameplay WW for a statement about US sales, leads me to believe sales are down quite a bit YOY.  Possibly 115K or less.  We already know Nintendo consoles are down, so probably means 65K for 3DS and 40K for Wii U.  It also means New 3DS was a failure at stopping the decline of 3DS sales.  Doesn't bold well with Nintendo banking on combining their HH and home markets when both are doing poorly.

Its a bit early to call the 3DS and Nintendo's handheld segment a de facto failure with no future prospect, when the system is 5 years old, underpowered and managed to sell 60 million units already. That said they need something and fast if they want to remain profitable and a seriosu player in the console race, this year. 2017 is way to late IMO.

 

OT: The PS4 is dominating. No real surprise here. Microsoft officially lost their last stronghold on a global scale IMO. With U4, PSVR and a dozen mid-tier exclusives this year, there is simply not much they can do to get back to #1 in the US IMO.



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Hows the XBO sales <153k is bad? (Or dead?) Its doing well and almost on par with PS4.

 

Am I missing something here?



         

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drdante said:

Hows the XBO sales <153k is bad? (Or dead?) Its doing well and almost on par with PS4.

 

Am I missing something here?

Because:

  1. It's down Year-on-Year
  2. We don't know exact numbers. It could have only sold half of what the PS4 did.
  3. It's one of the worst months for the Xbox One in the US yet (top 10 worst NPDs for XB1 below)

Top 10 worst NPDs for XB1 (via NeoGaf):

1) 77,000 (May 2014)
2) 115,000 (April 2014)
3) 131,000 (July 2014)
4) 139,000 (May 2015)
5) 141,000 (Jan 2014)
6) 150,000 (Jan 2015)
7) 160,000 (Aug 2014)
8) 168,000 (Oct 2014)
9) 187,000 (Apr 2015)
10) 189,000 (Jul 2015)

As you can see, this months might very well in the top 5.



drdante said:

Hows the XBO sales <153k is bad? (Or dead?) Its doing well and almost on par with PS4.

Am I missing something here?

Under 153k could mean anything.

PS4 is confirmed to be more than 20% up YoY, putting it at roughly 230k.

A 80k-100k sales differnce isnt "almost on par".



So... even gaf cannot get NPD numbers now.

Probably the saddest thing for this sales forum is the lack of NPD transparency this gen. When 360 was dominating and NPD was very open, is when Vgchartz peaked. Then the decline starts when NPD stopped...



drdante said:

Hows the XBO sales <153k is bad? (Or dead?) Its doing well and almost on par with PS4.

 

Am I missing something here?

Numbers aren't that good for still having bundles that were $50 less than a PS4 bundle, during the Jan sales period. Plus, it needs to sell as much as possible in the US, since it has barely any presence outside of the country. 



OttoniBastos said:
Shadow1980 said:
Here we are over 24 hours later and no numbers. Did NPD discover that sales data holds the key to eternal life or something? Why the secrecy. I wish Media Create would open a U.S. branch or VGC would change their mission and become a direct NPD competitor, except, y'know, the numbers are public.

Also, damn GAF for banning nearly everyone who can provide numbers. Of all the places where people with information could have chosen to congregate, why there? I don't have an issue with the community per se, but it seems like you don't really have to do anything to get instantly permabanned.

GAF mods are pretty hiveminded which is ironicaly because they say they do that to keep the community "safe and open".

It's no surprise the number of posts on GAF are down 50% YoY.

Have you a source that backs that up?  NeoGAF traffic down 50% YOY I mean