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Is "heavy metal, like" designed as a platform for singers who aren't exactly..."good"?

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Is heavy metal designed as a platform for singers who aren't exactly..."good"?

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Check out one of the few projects of Todd Smith, if you think metal singers can't sing. His bands include Dog Fashion Disco, Knives Out!, El-Creepo, Polkadot Cadaver, and a defunct project from the past, he did with members of Mushroomhead, and the late Ryan Dunn, called, The Alter Boys. There are many styles throughout all of his bands, not all are metal. Serj from SOAD is a big fan of his. So much so, that Serj did a song with them many years ago.



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For some bands, the type of voice is actually more important than having a "good" singer.

 

 



There's absolutely loads of metal vocalists that have great singing voices, the ones you've mentioned are very commercial so in not sure how deep your knowledge of metal music goes, there are many sub genres but trust me metal band vocalists can sing aswell.



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StokedUp said:
There's absolutely loads of metal vocalists that have great singing voices, the ones you've mentioned are very commercial so in not sure how deep your knowledge of metal music goes, there are many sub genres but trust me metal band vocalists can sing aswell.

I never denied it. Commercialor non commercial is not relevant. It is just coincedence wether a human likes it or not. If it is yours its yours. If its not then it isnt.



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Baryonyx said:

More ignorance? There are so many genres that doesn't scream vs the genres which they do not scream, that the entire bases around metal should not be famous for their growl's and scream's. Also the best way to actually tell a person is to actually be up-front about it.  You brought up scream as an argument to describe metal, which simply tells me you don't have a clue except from the few bands that you like. 

I am not *offended*.. I am exasperated over people who dedicate a entire thread on VGchartz which is about Gaming in general to complain over Screamo, which isn't even metal in the true sense of the genre metal, it leans more towards the evolutionary tree of hardcore punk in the late 90s and early 2000, which to me seem to be a unnecessary trolling, simply because the conversation could have been more relevant else-where. Also, Linkin park isn't metal, so why the fuck do he say he likes a few metal bands such as linkin park. If someone is so damn uinformend, i am glad he doesn't like it enough to be a part of something great, which isn't even controlled by corporations or any other poisones degrading form of capitalism, it's a community based community for the people who understand it and have the decensy to check-the-fact's before speaking out about things he *believes* that he know about, that is a good lesson in life. I don't go around speakling about other sources of music in any bad manner at all unless if i actually know what i talk about, i don't see a reason to do that!

Metal have been around since the 70s, there are over 80 sub-genres of Metal and metal is a sub-genre of Rock which got around 200 sub-genres. 
So basically it's quite wrong to narrow Metal down to Screams and growls which basically is as many genres as you can count on 1-2 hands.

 

U only confirm what i said. U r easily offended. Ive been listening this stuff since the early 80's stuff. Im not really making heavy metal a religion or dogma. Im listening to it and i actually really like it. Steve vai is good. Not only do i listen heavy metal but the guitar is a great tool in other music genres as well. 

 

U got indie games right? And how many of them r really great? Thats the point i wanna prove to u but u seem overly offended. The heavy metal genre is good and should be there. But there are plenty diarhea basement growl and screamers and punk rock basement fails that happen to be in the commercial market zone. I find it hard to believe that u like aaaaaaall metal. 

 

Im not provoking u. Just making a point so that u hopefully understand me. Calling me ignorant could be felt as an insult but u know im cool with u. I really am. Just chill bro. I aint even mad

 

Its music. And its a choice of what u like wether it be bread with cheese or a cucumber. Live and let live. 

I never said anything against it as a choice, wtf are you on about? I don't care what people are listening to, when they are taking a dump or what clothing they are wearing. The point is: If you don't know anything about a subject and you are asking questions about it, you don't have to be stereotypical about it, like narrowing a entire genre based on what you, yourself have heard. If you don't like something, what is the point in asking questions about it in the first place. Also, I don't think me reacting on Linkin park not being metal as a bad thing, it's the fact that he considered it metal, which just adds more questions: If your favorable Metal bands aren't metal and you in general doesn't like metal, why are you even discussing it. That is my entire point

Steve vai isn't metal, he leans towards fusion and yes he is amazing. Joe satriani, Guthrie govan, Shawn layne, Yngwie malmsteen, Joe bonamassa, Paul gilbert etc etc. Guitars is a great tool in basically all form of music, but that is still not the point of this entire conversation at all, wether if guitars can be used elsewhere or not, that is pretty much a given since the days the guitar got invented as well as all of it's siblings. 

I am not butt-hurt at all, why should i? It's internet and i am not about to start typing extremely rosy and dandy just so that people don't confuse me with being angry. 

Dream theater. 
Megadeth. 
Metallica. 
Anthrax. 
Accept. 
Nightwish. 
Judas priest. 
Iron maiden. 
Saxon. 
Tiger of pangea 
Van canto. 
Newsted. 
Alestorm. 
Anvil. 
Pantera. 
Ghost BC.
Motley crue. 
Poison. 

Out of these bands, the only band that occasionally screams are Pantera, and the list is far longer then this.
There are no reason to stereotype metal to screamo only and then go on about and say Metal singers sucks when the person barely know anything other then 3-4 bands or have watched parody videos on Metal or whatever. 

It's ignorance plain and through. Britney spears can't fucking sing and she got famous on her looks but i don't go around and say all pop-singers from 2000+ does as well, then i would be ignorant.  A person is good at what he does, he is skilled at what he do, no matter if one random dude out there in the world acknowedge that or not, if they don't think so? They are welcome to try themselves and see for themselves, wether it is drawing, gaming, card-games etc etc, just because a person doesn't like what they, still isn't considered a fact that what he hear sucks and can't be compared with other's, it only means that he doesn't like, it's not his cup of tea and that is the end to it, or at least he can come with a proper argument which isn't completely baseless and clueless. 
A argument is a fight between who is right, a discussion is about what is right and only the minority of world bands screams, the end.



 

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Baryonyx said:

Also, I don't think me reacting on Linkin park not being metal as a bad thing, it's the fact that he considered it metal, which just adds more questions: If your favorable Metal bands aren't metal and you in general doesn't like metal, why are you even discussing it. That is my entire point


Out of interest, what do you class Linkin Park as? I've always seen them as nu-metal (and I do listen to metal music). 



Scoobes said:
Baryonyx said:

Also, I don't think me reacting on Linkin park not being metal as a bad thing, it's the fact that he considered it metal, which just adds more questions: If your favorable Metal bands aren't metal and you in general doesn't like metal, why are you even discussing it. That is my entire point


Out of interest, what do you class Linkin Park as? I've always seen them as nu-metal (and I do listen to metal music). 

Alternative-rock/Hardcore punk/Goth(Original goth music is Electronica) with metal distortion on the guitars. If People consider distortion as the only tool that makes something metal, metal. They are free to believe so if they wish but distortion is only a effect-pedal that distort the sound, metal is only best known for turning the overdrive at max. 



 

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Baryonyx said:
Scoobes said:

Out of interest, what do you class Linkin Park as? I've always seen them as nu-metal (and I do listen to metal music). 

Alternative-rock/Hardcore punk/Goth(Original goth music is Electronica) with metal distortion on the guitars. If People consider distortion as the only tool that makes something metal, metal. They are free to believe so if they wish but distortion is only a effect-pedal that distort the sound, metal is only best known for turning the overdrive at max. 

That's a few too many genre definitions for me, lol. I miss the days when bands were just rock or metal!



John2290 said:

So, after an hour (and a lifetime) of listening (depending on where you want to believe I'm coming from) I've noticed that their are very little Artists who are decent singers. Theirs the exceptions of course but their seem to be very little, Fred Durst maybe. the lead from Radio head and the rapper from linkin park and a few others ...but if you disagree with this please, in a disscussion devoid of fanboyism, prove me wrong with names, links emmeded videos. Proof. 

And if you agree with me, please be polite and no hatefull crap. Music discussions can turn as volitial as Religious debates so cop on. 

I honestly think you are trolling

You want good metal singers?

Layne Staley - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eipuJPgHFZk

Ozzy Osbourne - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3b6SGoN6dA

Dio - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQaSAGlk9lU

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Modern Metal

Papa Emeritus III - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg

Chino - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1bcYaEPcU

 



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Bruce dickinson, Robert Plant, Dio, Ozzy Osbourne, James Hetfield aren't good singers is that what you are saying?



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