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In gaming, do you believe Nintendo and Sony parallel Apple and Microsoft in the PC business?

Yes 34 15.81%
 
No 154 71.63%
 
Somewhat 27 12.56%
 
Total:215
Conina said:
Teeqoz said:

I'm sure there are tons of apps.

But you can't even name one...

Nope, I'm contempt with my iPhone 5s for now. When I intend to buy a new phone, I'll probably dig more, though I'll probably end up just buying an iPhnoe anyway cause I like the OS, and the hardware difference is nearly equalized by better app performance anyway. Not like I push my phones to the hardware limit either way.



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LivingMetal said:
Joke thread of the month.

Yep and all the phone talk just derails it even more.

IMO, kinda sad 18% actually voted they agree with the OP.



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There are creators and there are oportunists, and frequently the oportunists end up winning, and is pretty obvious who is who in this case, that part you have it right.



Goodnightmoon said:

There are creators and there are oportunists, and frequently the oportunists end up winning, and is pretty obvious who is who in this case, that part you have it right.

LOL, classy.



 

 

Teeqoz said:

No, speed tests don't tell you have powerful the hardware is. And you're saying I'm the one talking nonsense? The XBO is faster than the PS4 in speed tests, but that's not because it's more powerful. It has to do with software. Not hardware. The Galaxy S6 is factually more powerful than and Iphone 6S plus. It simply has more powerful hardware. The Iphone 6s plus can outperform it in speed tests because of software optimization. Not because it's more powerful. Keep on denying facts though, it's amusing that you think I am the ridiculous one though.

The 6s/plus is also stronger in raw hardware. Every single benchmark prooves this. Apple isnt well known for awesome software optimisation at all. Most games/programs run afwull on Mac OS compared to windows. Dont fool yourself.

Teeqoz said:

The difference in image quality between a 4K and a 5K screen is negligable. And I do know what 4K and 5K means. 

4k = ~8,8 mio pixel

5k= ~14,7 mio pixel.

Difference= 5,9 Mio Pixels

[Difference between 1080p and 4k is 6,7 mio Pixels]

So the differences in pixel between 4k and 5k is almost the same as between full hd and 4k.

5k has 167% of the pixels 4k has.

Difference is negliable? Nope.

 

Teeqoz said:

The laptop has a better CPU, a waaaaaay better GPU and just as much RAM as most Macbook Pros. SSHD vs SSD has little to do with actual hardware power, and wether the PC is made with plastic or metal has nothing to do with hardware power. Retina IPS display vs LED display, again, doesn't matter for performance.

SSDs arnt hardware? interesting.

the 750m is used in macbook pros as well. The latest Intel Iris pro graphics arnt much weaker btw. The CPUs in this class are almost the same.

The build quality and used display does both matter for the priece. So they are important. Show me a similar product as the macbook pro to proove they are "overprieced". Not something compeltly different thats "almost the same" in your opinion.

 

Here is an macbook pro for 1900$

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MGXC2LL-15-4-Inch-Display/dp/B00G2MB7KW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455047604&sr=8-1&keywords=macbook+pro+750m

Your Lenovo for 1300$

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-i7-4700HQ-GT750M-1920x1080/dp/B00LXQDFK2

 

Differences:

Macbook pro advantages:

- Way better display

- WAY better storage

- Way better build quality

- Same graphics card

- Better CPU (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4870HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4700HQ)

- Double as many Ram

 

So both notebooks arnt even on a similar level.

 

Teeqoz said:

It's pretty fun how you call me an Android fanboy but I'm still writing this reply from my Iphone 5s. And once again, it's ironic that you call me uneducated in terms of computer/mobile hardware, yet you have shown extremely limited knowledge on the subject yourself.

Please stop trolling.

 

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BraLoD said:
Goodnightmoon said:

There are creators and there are oportunists, and frequently the oportunists end up winning, and is pretty obvious who is who in this case, that part you have it right.

LOL, classy.

I didnt say that the oportunists made a bad job, they didnt, they probably deserve to be where they are now.



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Goodnightmoon said:
BraLoD said:

LOL, classy.

I didnt say that the oportunists made a bad job, they didnt, they probably deserve to be where they are now.

It's beyond ridiculous to call Sony/PlayStation opportunists, it's simply not true even if not meant at a bad tone.
The PlayStation was born in a partnership with Nintendo that tossed it away, Nintendo was as strong as ever and Sony took them away in their own game, they were not opportunities, they simply did a better job that Nintendo couldn't see (it's brutally clear as Nintendo wasn't happy with the PlayStation), that's vision, Sony build their own gaming envyronment, they didn't simply came and steal anything, they built it.



BraLoD said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I didnt say that the oportunists made a bad job, they didnt, they probably deserve to be where they are now.

It's beyond ridiculous to call Sony/PlayStation opportunists, it's simply not true even if not meant at a bad tone.
The PlayStation was born in a partnership with Nintendo that tossed it away, Nintendo was as strong as ever and Sony took them away in their own game, they were not opportunities, they simply did a better job that Nintendo couldn't see (it's brutally clear as Nintendo wasn't happy with the PlayStation), that's vision, Sony build their own gaming envyronment, they didn't simply came and steal anything, they built it.

Nintendo didnt wanted to partner with Sony, but not because they were not happy with Playstation, get that out of your head. Sony wanted the rights of ALL the games published on the device, when the biggest proffits of Nintendo comes from software, that made no sense, Nintendo is stupid sometimes, but not THAT stupid, they were affraid of Sony being some opportunists that wanted to canibalize them, and maybe they were not wrong with that.

Now I didnt meant to say opportunist as an offensive thing by any means, there is no doubt Sony played their cards wisely, I also think Microsoft are opportunists of Apple yet I preffer Microsoft because I think they had made better job with the consumer for the most part, even if their software is actually inferior.



JNK said:
Teeqoz said:

No, speed tests don't tell you have powerful the hardware is. And you're saying I'm the one talking nonsense? The XBO is faster than the PS4 in speed tests, but that's not because it's more powerful. It has to do with software. Not hardware. The Galaxy S6 is factually more powerful than and Iphone 6S plus. It simply has more powerful hardware. The Iphone 6s plus can outperform it in speed tests because of software optimization. Not because it's more powerful. Keep on denying facts though, it's amusing that you think I am the ridiculous one though.

The 6s/plus is also stronger in raw hardware. Every single benchmark prooves this. Apple isnt well known for awesome software optimisation at all. Most games/programs run afwull on Mac OS compared to windows. Dont fool yourself.

Apple isn't the one optimizing the apps... The developers are. Same counts for games for Mac. The reason apps are more optimized for iOS is because it's a closed system without too mane different types of hardware. Meanwhile for Android you have a shittonne of different hardware. Furthermore, iOS users spend more money on microtransactions et. al. so it makes more sense for devs to focus on that version of an app running as good as possible, especially when it's easier to do so (I assume that you understand that optimizing for perhaps a dozen hardware configurations is a lot easier than optimizing for hundreds)

Teeqoz said:

The difference in image quality between a 4K and a 5K screen is negligable. And I do know what 4K and 5K means. 

4k = ~8,8 mio pixel

5k= ~14,7 mio pixel.

Difference= 5,9 Mio Pixels

[Difference between 1080p and 4k is 6,7 mio Pixels]

So the differences in pixel between 4k and 5k is almost the same as between full hd and 4k.

5k has 167% of the pixels 4k has.

Difference is negliable? Nope.

Diminishing returns. The difference in image quality between 1080p and 480p is much bigger than that between 1080p and 4K, even though you are adding a lot more pixels from 1080p to get 4k than you are when moving from 480p to 1080p. Even then, the jump from 1080p to 4K quadruples the amount of pixels, while 4K to 5K less than doubles it, and diminishing returns are everpresent. The jump from 4K to 5K is much much much smaller than the jump from 1080p to 4K, I really hope you aren't denying that.

Teeqoz said:

The laptop has a better CPU, a waaaaaay better GPU and just as much RAM as most Macbook Pros. SSHD vs SSD has little to do with actual hardware power, and wether the PC is made with plastic or metal has nothing to do with hardware power. Retina IPS display vs LED display, again, doesn't matter for performance.

SSDs arnt hardware? interesting.

Didn't say so, I said SSD vs SSHD has little to do with actual hardware power. Don't put words in my mouth. Of course SSDs are hardware.

the 750m is used in macbook pros as well. The latest Intel Iris pro graphics arnt much weaker btw. The CPUs in this class are almost the same.

The build quality and used display does both matter for the priece. So they are important. Show me a similar product as the macbook pro to proove they are "overprieced". Not something compeltly different thats "almost the same" in your opinion.

 

Here is an macbook pro for 1900$

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MGXC2LL-15-4-Inch-Display/dp/B00G2MB7KW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455047604&sr=8-1&keywords=macbook+pro+750m

Your Lenovo for 1300$

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-i7-4700HQ-GT750M-1920x1080/dp/B00LXQDFK2

Fine, Lenovo was a bad example. Take this one instead:

http://www.amazon.com/HP-15-5220nr-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Intel/dp/B013WM9QMA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1455049197&sr=1-1&keywords=hp+omen

Differences:

HP Omen advantages:

*Slightly better CPU

*WAY better GPU

*Faster type of RAM (DDR3 SDRAM vs normal DDR3)

*Lower price 

Macbook Pro advantage:

*Better screen

Teeqoz said:

It's pretty fun how you call me an Android fanboy but I'm still writing this reply from my Iphone 5s. And once again, it's ironic that you call me uneducated in terms of computer/mobile hardware, yet you have shown extremely limited knowledge on the subject yourself.

Please stop trolling.

How am I trolling? xD

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