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Will piracy be largley eradicated in the next 5 years?

Yes 16 12.60%
 
No 88 69.29%
 
I'll wait and see 23 18.11%
 
Total:127
BasilZero said:
ReimTime said:

Now there's an idea! Slowly ween people off of piracy by undercutting the pirate groups! Give games away for free! /s

So you don't think one group backing off for a while speaks for piracy as a whole? Will the ratio of purchased to pirated games see a change?

 

@Bolded/Italic/Underlined - wat? I dont get it ;o.........

 

I dont think one group or person represents a community like the warez/piracy community. Its not like they will be the ones who will be doing all the work forever - someone eventually will overtake them in popularity or will try to compete for recognition/hits/whatever the reason why these people do these things and making illegal copies available lol.

If DRM like Denuvo is causing issues and taking longer to crack then we might see a small increase of actual games being sold over pirated depending on the duration of how long it takes for it to be cracked. Some people might become impatient and just buy the game rather than pirating it....or if they are too cheap or cant maintain paying full price for whatever reason/or wait for a crack then we might not see much ;o!

I honestly dont see much change happening between the ratio of sold/pirated at least not a huge change if any.

Bolded was a joke I didn't actually mean that. Oh and speaking of jokes add me on PSN cos I actually do have a PS4 lel (TheReimMinister)

Fair enough, thanks for the reply



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Smear-Gel said:
Hasnt it been proven as not affecting AAA games as much as people like to believe?

We always go back to the Game of Thrones argument. One of the most pirated TV shows ever and still an absolutely massive ratings success.

TV show? that's just crazy reasoning. 

The primary modus of consumption for a TV show is you guessed it; on a TV. To pirate it it would mean that you are no matter what, not gonna watch it live. So if you wanna watch it live you just watch it on TV as you would anyyhing else you watch on TV. And the TV show "ratings" business model is completely different from that of game software. And I'm not even going to bother going into that. 

Games on the other hand, is a whole different affair. First of, a pirated game is an exact digital copy of that game. There is no difference between it and the original. Only difference is that one person pays for it and another doesn't. But let's put things in perspective. Games (not free to play ad supported games) primary: no scratch that..... ONLY income source is from sales of the game or content affiliated to the game (dlc). A sale, even of 1 or 10 or 1M lost to piracy is a slae lost period. 

Yes, not every pirate would have bought the game, but there are also thousands that could have bought the game but wouldn't because they can just pirate the fuck outta it. 

But as I always say when it comes to piracy, and will say to you too; if you spent 2-3 or in some cases 7yrs of your life making a game, making content. How would you feel about 10 people hopping onto some site and downloading your game for free?

Honestly, I sincerely believe anyone that Is pro piracy in anyway is probably a pirate and is just selfishly defending their vile habit. Not calling names or pointing anyone out. This is just what I think. Cause I can't even start to imagine how anyone can be so ignorant to not see how obviously bad game piracy is for a medium that has such a heavy sale dependent revenue source. 



Ruler said:
imagine how much they will charge now for complete games?

Are you saying that the price of games will increase if they eliminate or take a chunk out of piracy? 



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The only way to measure the impact would be if all ways of piracy would dissapear for a year. *Then*, and only then would we be able the measure the impact of piracy.



I cant see anything changing. All their fancy code can undone.



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Teeqoz said:
The only way to measure the impact would be if all ways of piracy would dissapear for a year. *Then*, and only then would we be able the measure the impact of piracy.

Even then though, would it not be impossible to compare the same game (tit for tat) to itself, in the *same* (edit) universe? There are too many other variables to take account of. Unless we could be in two separate universes where the conditions of the game's development and its release were exactly the same - and the only difference in universes was the existence of piracy - measuring the impact is impossible.

Do you see how I dug myself a hole here?



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Watch sales jump by 90% because we all know people pirate as much as people actually buy games right? right?  *sarcasm*

Honestly though wouldnt be surprised if this only makes a few % difference if any at all.



ReimTime said:
Teeqoz said:
The only way to measure the impact would be if all ways of piracy would dissapear for a year. *Then*, and only then would we be able the measure the impact of piracy.

Even then though, would it not be impossible to compare the same game (tit for tat) to itself, in the *same* (edit) universe? There are too many other variables to take account of. Unless we could be in two separate universes where the conditions of the game's development and its release were exactly the same - and the only difference in universes was the existence of piracy - measuring the impact is impossible.

Do you see how I dug myself a hole here?

True, but just because an impact is immeasurable (not from being to small, but because as you say, you can't have a control group to compare it to), doesn't mean we should assume the impact isn't there. I'm pretty confident that if there was no means of pirating games/movies/music/whatever, then sales of those respective things would be higher. Of course, that is a scenario which, by now is impossible to achieve, which sucks, because pirates are assholes.



ReimTime said:
Ruler said:
imagine how much they will charge now for complete games?

Are you saying that the price of games will increase if they eliminate or take a chunk out of piracy? 

yes pircay ist just another form of competetion for companies



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