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eva01beserk said:

Its true that we need to understand where it comes from and we all agree that it has shaped the society we live on today, but that still does not excuse the behaviour of the SJW's acusing an entire race. That in fact is racims.  

Its as someone already said. We live in a lazzzy society in the west. Everytime it doesnt work out in anyway for any individual they have to have somebody to blame. women inmediatly blame men, blacks go to whites and so on. We live in a world where we never have to look at ourselfs to identify the problem and its getting out of hand. we cannot cuddle these people anymore by cowording by their accusations. If its bullshit, call it out. Let them fall back to their "racist, sexist, biggot,ect" acusatins, we all know its bull anyways. 

I kind of agree, which is also why i checked the "I´m mixed" box :).

But the thing is, admitting white privilege exist is not the same as saying everyone that are white are rascist or enjoy a priviliged place in society. It only means there are tendencies in society that makes it easier for some people overall, but not necessarliy on an individual basis.

The mistake made by many on the left, is to generalize about white people, and call them all rascist, when only a small portion actually is rascist. The same mistake is made when feminists generalize about men being oppresive in general or when parts of the right accuse muslims in general for what only a portion does in terms of terrorism and so on.

We humans LOVE to generalize but I think we can see some patterns in society as a whole but as individuals, we differ a lot from each other.



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Puppyroach said:
Nettles said:

Cultures with a good work ethic do better than those without.No "privilege".If white privilege exists in America how does a small Asian minority earn more, have lower unemployment rates, higher college attendance rates?

Society did not benefit them, they benefitted society.

I don´t get what you are talking about. Do you mean that culture is genetically based, and not a product of the society they live in? You mean that people of Asian descent are born with good work ethics? :)

The explanation about how people from, mainly, Japan or China succeed (using the term Asian includes an entire continent, which also includes India, Pakistan and more, but I guess you mean Japan and China?) within a predominately white society could be a number of explanation, but we can always +trace them back to how people from China and Japan traditionally has been treated by the White majority in history, compared to people of african descent. It also has to do with the culture in their home countries, and what traditions people bring with them when arriving to a country.

It´s of course a complex explanation, but do you mean that the explanation is something else than society norms and history?

There is a strong family structure in Asian societies.As mentioned before, Asian Americans have the lowest divorce rates of all races in the US.In Detroit for example over 80% of black kids are brought up in single parent homes.A sign of moral decay.

 

Not sure what you mean by how Asians have been treated by white majorities.It is well known that America rounded up and detained people of Japanese descent in camps during WW2.Every race has faced hardship.If you adopt a defeatist attitude/victim complex you will always be a loser.

 

Asian American is defined here.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Americans



Agree 100% with the op!



spemanig said:
Frankly, if you're genuinely being accused of racism, you're probably doing something wrong and you probably know exactly what it is you've done. Just stop doing that. Semantics don't matter at that point.

People are so protective of their right to be insensitive dicks. If you said something that genuinely offended someone else, just apologize and stop saying it. Know your audience and don't say something potentially offensive to someone who's audience you aren't familiar with. Look outside your ego for a second and stop defending you're right to offend.

This doesn't go for just racism. It's everything. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in God. Don't be a dick to Christians. Don't believe in the gender pay gap? Not an excuse to be an ass to women who do. Don't like Donald Trump? Not an excuse to shit on Trump supporters.

Just be nice, guys.

 

As an insensitive dick, I find this post to be highly offensive. You're in no position to tell me what I can and cannot say to people. If I want to offend someone and generalize with the intention of making people feel insecure, that's on me.

If I say something that offends or "triggers" someone, know that I have no regrets and genuinely wishes for this person to learn how to cope with his insecurities so that the next guy trying to trigger him finds less success. Because if it's not me triggering someone, it will be someone else eventually. That's life. People will try to offend each other no matter what people like you say.

The best solution to inevitable attacks is not to complain about them every time that they occur; The best solution is learning how to defend yourself.



eva01beserk said:
forest-spirit said:
Using labels such as racist, nazi, feminazi, SJW, etc. is so much easier than constructing proper arguments, that's why they get abused so much. Just ignore the ones that does it a lot because chances are they're the kind of people who won't respond well to being argued against anyway.

The issue is that thouse peole come to you to argue and acuse you of this stuff. WHen you try to defendd yourself your a racist, if you dont say something back your agreeing to what the are saying and your still a raist, but you aknowledege it. If there is no wining, I will fight back then.

Yup.  Just because someone calls you a racist, amounts to jack and shit.  It's used as a no-platform.  In their eyes you're guilty no matter what.  So, frankly, fuck them.  Screw anyone who thinks 'You're Racist' is an argument or actual proof of anything, including anyone in this forum.  Likewise with 'I'm offended'.  So the fuck what.  Our society is innocent until proven guilty.  Just 'cause you said so, doesn't make it so.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

As an insensitive dick, I find this post to be highly offensive. You're in no position to tell me what I can and cannot say to people. If I want to offend someone and generalize with the intention of making people feel insecure, that's on me.

If I say something that offends or "triggers" someone, know that I have no regrets and genuinely wishes for this person to learn how to cope with his insecurities so that the next guy trying to trigger him finds less success. Because if it's not me triggering someone, it will be someone else eventually. That's life. People will try to offend each other no matter what people like you say.

The best solution to inevitable attacks is not to complain about them every time that they occur; The best solution is learning how to defend yourself.

I'm not so sure about that. I'm living without offending anyone and trying to not act like a dick with people, and I assure it's working fairly well. I respect everyone's opinions, even if I can argue with them. But there's no need to be a dick to defend yourself. Obviously you can act like whatever you want, you have your rights. But I think people who is polite and don't offend anyone have the advantage in a argument and can defend themselves better. The other option is start a cycle of ad-hominem and offensive arguments which generally don't go anywhere.



eva01beserk said:
REDZONE said:

What?Hating them,don't friend them and don't date them?Is that not discriminating against them?That sounds a he'll lot like something a racist would do.

Wich is what was said, that we are all a bit racist. But as long as we dont do anything hurtfull to anybody of the group we dislike its ok. Nobody can force us to fraternise with others, but they can force us to not harm others. Its how society works and theres nothing wrong with that.

Everyone is not a bit racist,that's a joke.I certainly am not and i'm sure many people aren't as well.Thing is someone is not going to call you a racist at random,you must have done something to warrant it.



Volterra_90 said:

I'm not so sure about that. I'm living without offending anyone and trying to not act like a dick with people, and I assure it's working fairly well. I respect everyone's opinions, even if I can argue with them. But there's no need to be a dick to defend yourself. Obviously you can act like whatever you want, you have your rights. But I think people who is polite and don't offend anyone have the advantage in a argument and can defend themselves better. The other option is start a cycle of ad-hominem and offensive arguments which generally don't go anywhere.

 

My point was that I have the right to offend anyone that I desire, even if that means I'm making a fool of myself.

 

Chances are if someone is triggered by my generalizations, they wouldn't fare well in a constructive debate regardless.



Why does anyone care if they're called racist? If you indeed are a racist, accept it, own it, and don't get bothered if someone calls you on it. If you don't feel you're racist and someone calls you out, check yourself and if you really feel in your heart you're not, move the fuck on with life. People will always have something to say, stop being such a sensitive b*tch.



I don't believe every race is equal in every way. It is true that African Americans enjoy fried chicken more than other races usually do. That's why you find fried chicken places in the ghettos. And saying the Ghettos are mostly African American is also a true statement. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. It's just the way it is. Asians are generally smarter than whites. There is no denying that. African Americans are the least intelligent race. I believe their average IQ is in the mid 80's range. Like I said, there is a REASON all the third world countries are in Africa. There is a reason they've never developed. Arabs are also pretty low on IQ. Most Arabic countries have an average IQ below 90. No, races aren't equal. But I don't believe you should judge someone based on their skin color because there are ALWAYS those who break stereotypes. I know very stupid whites, very intelligent blacks. I know an Asian who isn't smart. But when people say races are the same, they're lying. It's the cold hard truth.