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Nettles said:

You have to realise that the left relies on emotion and not logic.They use words like racist, homophobic, transphobic, fat shaming etc to shut down debate.It is becoming increasingly hard to have a discussion or debate with a leftist that is based on logic and fact.Universities are now one big "safe space" and many famous comedians like Seinfeld and Chris Rock refuse to perform at campuses across the USA.

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/13224-top-comedians-snub-college-shows-say-students-are-too-politically-correct

something that could be said of the right or middle , you will always get some radical elements  , it's usually the loud minority we hear ,and lets not kid ourselves it happened back in the 60's we just didn't have the media presence of today  some one said about how would comedians from lenny bruces day feel well he was arrested back then and would eat these punks for breakfast .

My view is if you don't like , in this case edgy comics , boycott them or write to them telling them why , don't resort to hysterics . the only issue  I had from what I saw was getting the kids to shout about the chinese ,then again letting the channel know that him using kids to prop up those types of jokes didn't sit well and everyones fine, yes the tsunami jokes where distasteful but in that case simply don't go to his shows vote with your wallet.



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Puppyroach said:
hershel_layton said:

It's gotten quite ridiculous. Nowdays I'll see people bashing whites without ease, usually with an excuse such as "white privilege" or "just a joke". Yet, when a white person does the same, they'll quickly be labeled as racist.

I think all of us have rascist tendencies, conscious or subconsciously. It´s most likely biologically imprinted in our genome, to categorize and assess the world around us and always assess the threat level of other people. And we find open rascism within all groups of people, no matter the color.

But the thing is, history has been fortunate for caucasian people. We are not more intelligent than any other group, we don´t have any extra skill. But many of our ancestors have been succesful in invading other nations, or having slaves. So the "white privilege" is a historical heritage that has formed the society we live in today. And even though we, in a lot of ways, have leveled the playing field when it comes to legal rights, it takes a lot longer for people´s minds to change and for them to look at other people as equals. If the roles had been reversed and people from africa had established prescence in the US and gotten slaves from Europe, we would have been talking about "black privilege" today.

I think everyone should be able to bash everyone no matter what color of their skin, but we need to understand why opposition toward what white people say about black people is so strong sometimes.

Generally when someone trots out the tired SJW white privelege lines i ask them to explain how it is that Asian Americans earn more than white Americans, have a higher college attendance rate, lower unemployment rate and a lower divorce rate than whites.It's amusing to watch the SJWs backtrack and BS their way through.In reality though it has to be due to a better work ethic, stronger cultural emphasis on "success" (whatever that is defined as by that culture) and so on.This is why the concept of racial privilege in modern America is so flawed - it encourages defeatism in African Americans while downplaying the significant achievements Asian Americans have worked so hard for.

 



mjk45 said:
Nettles said:

You have to realise that the left relies on emotion and not logic.They use words like racist, homophobic, transphobic, fat shaming etc to shut down debate.It is becoming increasingly hard to have a discussion or debate with a leftist that is based on logic and fact.Universities are now one big "safe space" and many famous comedians like Seinfeld and Chris Rock refuse to perform at campuses across the USA.

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/13224-top-comedians-snub-college-shows-say-students-are-too-politically-correct

something that could be said of the right or middle 

Moreso the right in the pre internet days.Remember the early 90s outrage over video game violence?

Nowdays the numbers are stacked to the left.Barely a day goes by without some ridiculous twitter outburst by some random leftist that is picked up as "news" by mainstream news websites.Manspreading, Mansplaining, Manslamming anyone? Par for the course, the torrent of left wing PC crap that has infested the web over the past 7-8 years.



Nettles said:
mjk45 said:

something that could be said of the right or middle 

Moreso the right in the pre internet days.Remember the early 90s outrage over video game violence?

Nowdays the numbers are stacked to the left.Barely a day goes by without some ridiculous twitter outburst by some random leftist that is picked up as "news" by mainstream news websites.Manspreading, Mansplaining, Manslamming anyone? Par for the course, the torrent of left wing PC crap that has infested the web over the past 7-8 years.

sorry I was editing what i saidand added more before i saw your reply.



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People abuse the term "racist" and racists abuse the term "people". I say it's fair to call someone out on it either way.



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StarOcean said:
People who misuse the word are often either uneducated or are unintelligent enough to understand what the word "racist" means and how heavy of an accusation it is to call someone a racist.

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mornelithe said:

By this way of thinking, every religious person on the planet is guilty of every transgression and violent, horrific act carried out in the name of their respective faiths throughout history.  So, all Christians, Catholics, and Muslims are racist, woman hating, pedophiles.  Generalizations and Sins of the Father mentality are lovely, aren't they?

The thing that utterly pisses me off about this, is that I'm not rich, I've never been rich, my family was pretty poor when I was growing up, and we've never experienced this 'white privilege' you refer to.  My stepfather drove a fucking moped to work, in Vermont, through winters so he could put food on our table.  Fuck anyone saying he was privileged.  

What? I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I mean that we need to understand why the term "white privilege" exist and why there still are structures in society that benefits some people to a higher degree than others.

Is it right to blame anyone for all transgressions in the past by a specific color of your skin, religion or ideology? No, absolutely not, but we can not behave and think that we are not in any way affected by the society around us and the history that has lead to where we are today. I am talking about finding explanations for people´s reaction, not just looking at people´s reactions in a vacuum without any relation to history or how society as a whole is today.



Nettles said:

Generally when someone trots out the tired SJW white privelege lines i ask them to explain how it is that Asian Americans earn more than white Americans, have a higher college attendance rate, lower unemployment rate and a lower divorce rate than whites.It's amusing to watch the SJWs backtrack and BS their way through.In reality though it has to be due to a better work ethic, stronger cultural emphasis on "success" (whatever that is defined as by that culture) and so on.This is why the concept of racial privilege in modern America is so flawed - it encourages defeatism in African Americans while downplaying the significant achievements Asian Americans have worked so hard for.

So you explanation for asian americans "success" in this regard is the same explanation that can be applied in relation to "white privilege" that I was talking about? History, culture and the development of society has benefitted some people more than other and often we can see it on a larger scale that some groups benefit more than other.

And what does SJW mean?



Puppyroach said:
mornelithe said:

By this way of thinking, every religious person on the planet is guilty of every transgression and violent, horrific act carried out in the name of their respective faiths throughout history.  So, all Christians, Catholics, and Muslims are racist, woman hating, pedophiles.  Generalizations and Sins of the Father mentality are lovely, aren't they?

The thing that utterly pisses me off about this, is that I'm not rich, I've never been rich, my family was pretty poor when I was growing up, and we've never experienced this 'white privilege' you refer to.  My stepfather drove a fucking moped to work, in Vermont, through winters so he could put food on our table.  Fuck anyone saying he was privileged.  

What? I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I mean that we need to understand why the term "white privilege" exist and why there still are structures in society that benefits some people to a higher degree than others.

Is it right to blame anyone for all transgressions in the past by a specific color of your skin, religion or ideology? No, absolutely not, but we can not behave and think that we are not in any way affected by the society around us and the history that has lead to where we are today. I am talking about finding explanations for people´s reaction, not just looking at people´s reactions in a vacuum without any relation to history or how society as a whole is today.

Self loathing Swede.

Figures.



Puppyroach said:
Nettles said:

Generally when someone trots out the tired SJW white privelege lines i ask them to explain how it is that Asian Americans earn more than white Americans, have a higher college attendance rate, lower unemployment rate and a lower divorce rate than whites.It's amusing to watch the SJWs backtrack and BS their way through.In reality though it has to be due to a better work ethic, stronger cultural emphasis on "success" (whatever that is defined as by that culture) and so on.This is why the concept of racial privilege in modern America is so flawed - it encourages defeatism in African Americans while downplaying the significant achievements Asian Americans have worked so hard for.

So you explanation for asian americans "success" in this regard is the same explanation that can be applied in relation to "white privilege" that I was talking about? History, culture and the development of society has benefitted some people more than other and often we can see it on a larger scale that some groups benefit more than other.

And what does SJW mean?

Cultures with a good work ethic do better than those without.No "privilege".If white privilege exists in America how does a small Asian minority earn more, have lower unemployment rates, higher college attendance rates?

 

Society did not benefit them, they benefitted society.