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mornelithe said:
thismeintiel said:

Only stupid people would believe there was a thing as a voting violation that would be punishable by law.  Those types of flyers have been used before, for many different candidates.  Why haven't they been shamed before?  Cause they are trying to find any dirt they can on Cruz.  Obviously there isn't much if this is what they have to resort to.

Sorry, I perceive this response as a similar example of deflection that Hillary Clinton and the Liberal left are using to attempt to condone her issues w/ using encrypted Government email systems, as opposed to non-Gov servers.  Just because it's been done before, and that person got away with it, doesn't make it right, or ok.   Yes, Condaleeza Rice, and Colon Powell sent emails that would later be deemed to have classified information in them.  Even worse, Karl Rove deleted 22 Million emails.  

Clinton = 50,000 

Karl Rove = 22,000,000

Why that wasn't made a huge deal of back then is a travesty.  Why Rove didn't face anything near the level of scrutiny Clinton has, is a travesty.  That does NOT absolve Clinton.  Nor does the fact that people have behaved in a shady fashion in elections before, absolve Cruz.  That's a seriously fucked up world perspective.

You also assume that your average joe schmoe living in Iowa knows the intricacies of Caucus law in Iowa.  I would imagine they do not.  In fact, I'd imagine very few of them realized that in a tie, a coin toss could actually choose the winner of the Caucus.

So you agree that Hilary Clinton should go to jail for emailing top sectet information on non Goverment servers whitch any goverment employee would alredy be in jail?  I read the quote of the letter it says nothing about voting violations it just just says you haven't voted vote to increase your score and I don't know what that means, but why would you assume that means you must vote? That thing with Ben Carson was Ted Cruz's campaing staff reacting to a CNN report where Ben Carson was going to leave the campaing trail to go home and getting a change of cloths and not even go to new hampshire after that.  It involved speculation that he was going to drop out based on that news. If you are excited in campaning for any canidate it would take a really good person to ignore that news and it is not like Ted Cruz has dirrect control of the people campaning for him. Also discussing that news with anyone wouldn't even be wrong unless you said Ben Carson is for sure going to drop out. 



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TheLight said:
mornelithe said:

Sorry, I perceive this response as a similar example of deflection that Hillary Clinton and the Liberal left are using to attempt to condone her issues w/ using encrypted Government email systems, as opposed to non-Gov servers.  Just because it's been done before, and that person got away with it, doesn't make it right, or ok.   Yes, Condaleeza Rice, and Colon Powell sent emails that would later be deemed to have classified information in them.  Even worse, Karl Rove deleted 22 Million emails.  

Clinton = 50,000 

Karl Rove = 22,000,000

Why that wasn't made a huge deal of back then is a travesty.  Why Rove didn't face anything near the level of scrutiny Clinton has, is a travesty.  That does NOT absolve Clinton.  Nor does the fact that people have behaved in a shady fashion in elections before, absolve Cruz.  That's a seriously fucked up world perspective.

You also assume that your average joe schmoe living in Iowa knows the intricacies of Caucus law in Iowa.  I would imagine they do not.  In fact, I'd imagine very few of them realized that in a tie, a coin toss could actually choose the winner of the Caucus.

So you agree that Hilary Clinton should go to jail for emailing top sectet information on non Goverment servers whitch any goverment employee would alredy be in jail?  I read the quote of the letter it says nothing about voting violations it just just says you haven't voted vote to increase your score and I don't know what that means, but why would you assume that means you must vote? That thing with Ben Carson was Ted Cruz's campaing staff reacting to a CNN report where Ben Carson was going to leave the campaing trail to go home and getting a change of cloths and not even go to new hampshire after that.  It involved speculation that he was going to drop out based on that news. If you are excited in campaning for any canidate it would take a really good person to ignore that news and it is not like Ted Cruz has dirrect control of the people campaning for him. Also discussing that news with anyone wouldn't even be wrong unless you said Ben Carson is for sure going to drop out. 

Yeah see, here's the problem, you need to actually see what was sent to voters.

These were sent to people in Iowa, the % lists the voting 'score' of their neighbors and themselves.  Your average individual would not understand this is simply a campaign tactic.  It's horseshit.

As far as what should happen to Hillary, to be honest, I've no idea what information she actually put in those emails, but I don't trust her anyway and never planned on voting for her.  I read alot.  Christopher Hitchens wrote a pretty damning book on the Clintons, and that dude was without a doubt one of the most well-read, well-researched individuals I've ever seen.  I am not a law enforcement officer, I am not trained in these things.  What I can say for certain is that for me, Ted Cruz, and Hillary Clinton are unelectable.  Period.

And you are sorely mistaken, regarding the Cruz campaigns actions regarding Ben Carson (also unelectable to me, but for other reasons).

Dan Gabriel is apparently an ex-CIA Cruz Supporter.  The Cruz Campaign also tweeted out that CNN had reported this, also not true.  CNN reported that Carson would take a break (which does happen in virtually every election, they pick and choose the States they push for), however, as soon as the above was stated, Cruz campaign staffers spread this information to assembled crowds, urging them to switch their votes from Carson to Cruz.  Do I think Carson would've won?  No.  Did it help Cruz?  Hard to prove, but it seems likely.  If you're told that the person you were going to vote for has dropped out, you're probably not going to vote for them, right?

Either way, your understanding of the facts is as they hope, not complete.  This is clearly underhanded behavior, and not something I personally want to see in a President.  Others may disagree, and that's perfectly within their right, but, I expect greater from the office of the Presidency (even if some Presidents disappoint).



Ka-pi96 said:
sc94597 said:

If one were to located Hispania on a Roman map what continent would it be on? That should resolve your confusion.

So Hispanic doesn't really exist and they are actually just white/caucasian? As I thought...

It exists to the extent that "anglophone" or before it became unified "German" exist. Also most people labeled as hispanic have hispanic ancestry, but also have other ancestry, from Africa or the Americas. Hence hispanic is not a racial, but rather an linguistic and mildly ethnic description, in the same way people talk about the "

Side-note - The words "Espana" and "Spain" come from the latin word "Hispania." So yes, the place of "Hispania" still exists, the definition is just more narrow (before it included



homer said:
method114 said:

I keep hearing this argument and I don't get it. It's not like people were saying all republicans are racist. Peoplel say this because if your a racist your most likely a republican wouldn't you agree?

You need to meet some southern democrats.

I have and do because I live in the South. Housotn, Texas to be exact.