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lonerism on 05 February 2016

Does any1 know if they actually mentioned a word about XCX's sales?

This is kinda depressing, the game just vanished from existance lol



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Miyamotoo on 05 February 2016
lonerism said:
Does any1 know if they actually mentioned a word about XCX's sales?

This is kinda depressing, the game just vanished from existance lol

They just mentioned million sales, and XCX clearly isn't million seller, at least not yet.



OneKartVita on 05 February 2016
tbone51 said:
OneKartVita said:

Well splatoon sold 4m. 

4m x 60$ (it's 65 on amazon)  is 250$. Do you think the game cost over $50m to make.  It looks super cheap compared to modern day AAA. So why wouldn't roughly 200m of their profit be from splatoon? 

The game budget  is definitely alot less than your average game, but the mistake you made here is the profits. It's nowhere near that. Even if first party, I don't think they  make even 50% on each copy sold.

Another factor is 2 things.  1.europe has about 1mil in sales, most likely more. It'll profit alot less than normal (being about 40 msrp). (so about  a third drop in profits?) 

2. I would say about 400k-500k WW were bundle sales (thanks to euro+noa) which means the game itself won't be sold as much as a profit

 

The game I think overall budget and marketing was around 12mil dollars. 

After reading miyamotoo post above I agree my initial 200m seems too high.  So I'll go with 100-200m. So imo this new IP was responsible for about 1/3Rd of their profits.  Amiibo could make up another 3Rd. 



tbone51 on 05 February 2016
OneKartVita said:
tbone51 said:

The game budget  is definitely alot less than your average game, but the mistake you made here is the profits. It's nowhere near that. Even if first party, I don't think they  make even 50% on each copy sold.

Another factor is 2 things.  1.europe has about 1mil in sales, most likely more. It'll profit alot less than normal (being about 40 msrp). (so about  a third drop in profits?) 

2. I would say about 400k-500k WW were bundle sales (thanks to euro+noa) which means the game itself won't be sold as much as a profit

 

The game I think overall budget and marketing was around 12mil dollars. 

After reading miyamotoo post above I agree my initial 200m seems too high.  So I'll go with 100-200m. So imo this new IP was responsible for about 1/3Rd of their profits.  Amiibo could make up another 3Rd. 

I would say splatoon overall profited 100mil-120mil. That said your mixing up the profits with only splatoon profits. 

What I mean is your not taking in total gross. Splatoon isn't 1/3rd profits for entire year. Maybe 10 percent? Probably less but it's definitely 1 of the top reasons. As for amiibo, again probably less than splatoon



LipeJJ on 05 February 2016
Miyamotoo said:
LipeJJ said:
Still profiting, right? That's something.

Anyway, we have to keep in mind that they are developing the NX, so they must have spent a good amount of $$$ on R&D last year. They also seem to be developing QoL, whatever it is.

People don't realize that they definitely had spent good amount of money for R&D for NX, we will know those costs at end of FY year.

Yep. I'm curious to see how much they spent. I think consoles cost something like 1~2B, don't they?



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

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Teeqoz on 05 February 2016
RolStoppable said:
Nintendo is in much better shape than you think.

Couldn't have said it better myself.



OneKartVita on 05 February 2016
tbone51 said:
OneKartVita said:

After reading miyamotoo post above I agree my initial 200m seems too high.  So I'll go with 100-200m. So imo this new IP was responsible for about 1/3Rd of their profits.  Amiibo could make up another 3Rd. 

I would say splatoon overall profited 100mil-120mil. That said your mixing up the profits with only splatoon profits. 

What I mean is your not taking in total gross. Splatoon isn't 1/3rd profits for entire year. Maybe 10 percent? Probably less but it's definitely 1 of the top reasons. As for amiibo, again probably less than splatoon

What I'm saying is,  if they didn't release splatoon profits would probably be 200m instead of 300m



tbone51 on 05 February 2016
OneKartVita said:
tbone51 said:

I would say splatoon overall profited 100mil-120mil. That said your mixing up the profits with only splatoon profits. 

What I mean is your not taking in total gross. Splatoon isn't 1/3rd profits for entire year. Maybe 10 percent? Probably less but it's definitely 1 of the top reasons. As for amiibo, again probably less than splatoon

What I'm saying is,  if they didn't release splatoon profits would probably be 200m instead of 300m

No, your talking about 1 quarter (where you see the 300mil figure). Splatoon sold about 1.6mil that quarter and with the bundles equaling probably around 300k-350k of those sales and let's say 400k was towards Europe (where it's cheaper)  I say splatoon probably made about 25mil for Nintendo (oct-dec). Amiibo probably made more money than splatoon (for last quarter only)



Ultrashroomz on 05 February 2016

Nintendo is still doing rather fine, honestly.

Looking forward to if the NX will greatly benefit their profits.



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kooltrex on 05 February 2016

Hope NX is good.



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