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Puppyroach said:
Nettles said:
The problem lies with far left ideology.Cultural Marxism and self loathing are central to their thinking.They also love big government, socialism and the nanny state.

Sweden will collapse both economically and socially within the next few years.The path they are on is completely unsustainable - theyve even got negative interest rates now so don't try tell me things are "normal" over there.

From how i see it i cannot see Sweden becoming an Islamic nation/majority.When they collapse the vast majority will die, the rest will become refugees.Very few people will live in Sweden in 10 years, maybe as few as 50,000.It is a very harsh climate, especially when the people are so naive about reality and so soft.Countries with good climates are the ones most at risk of Islam - France, Spain,Italy,Greece.Where is the king of Poland when you need him?

It´s the same rethoric that we have heard from other countries since 1960, yet Sweden continues to grow economically and outperforms many nations with far more restrictive immigrations policies. And the last segment made me laugh, you really have no clue about Sweden, do you? :).

 

No clue? I ask again, if Swedens economy is so great then why do they have negative interest rates?

Ive been posting on other economics based forums for over a decade so i knew previously that Sweden also has a housing bubble and sky high personal debt levels.HSBC even reported a month ago that Swedens housing bubble was unsustainable, see for yourself : http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hsbc-sweden-housing-bubble-not-sustainable-2016-1?r=UK&IR=T

 

I live in Australia, we have the same housing bubble and high personal debt load issues as Sweden but i don't run around kidding myself that the economy is in great shape, it is deteriorating here.Still, our interest rates are at 2.00% so we have room.What are you guys going to do when things get worse, drop rates even further into negative territory? You might as well hold cash, then you can avoid the negative rates.You still have cash right? I heard some banks have stopped stocking banknotes and they are tearing out ATMs all over the place.It ain't good dude.

 

 



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Puppyroach said:
barneystinson69 said:

Now your making assumtions and twisting my words. And no, there are no go zones. 55 actually: http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/02/swedish-police-release-extensive-report-detailing-control-of-55-no-go-zones-by-muslim-criminal-gangs/

Anyway I have to go to bed. If you reply, I'll respond tomorrow.

The "no-go" zones is a made up term, the police in Sweden don´t use it, so we can just lay that to rest.

And I was mostly asking. If your argument is that we should be restrictive with immigration because some people from, for example, north african countries are overreresented when it comes to rape; would you make the same argument that we should be restrictive of men as a whole because men are overrepresentative when it comes to rape?



 

Wow, so this is what you've got? Yes, your country should restrict immigration. No, not all men are like this, only immigrant men. 5.5 times more likely pal...Don't try to twist words when I already stated this. And nettles does make a good point, your country does have negative interest rate's. And he's right about the hosuing bubble to! Do you care about this? Will all those immigrants solve the problem by providing cheap labour? Your future generations will pay for your ignorance. Sweden is doomed! With its government that is so politically correct, no wonder your facing catastrophy! Good luck!



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:

And why now is the government suddenly wanting to deport over 80,000 muslums who didn't get asylum?

It's just a trick to calm the people and the Social democrats know this very well. It won't happen in reality because the majority of those 80,000 will go underground, and then after a couple of years they are are allowed to stay because the government will proclaim an amnesty for all illegal refugees (it happened many times in the past). Another method is to stay underground for four to five years and then just plead to the authorities that your familiy has gotten so used to Swedish society that they would feel awkward to return to their home country - and our jackass authorities accept this reason lol

That's the Swedish moral - if you obstruct long enough you earn the jackpot. And it's like that on every level in our society, and is one reason why criminals succeed so well here. Obstruct and complain, and eventually our insecure authorities will start questioning themselves and even question what is right and wrong lol

Sweden really is not a normal country. I have never met so many morally sick, twisted and perverted people anywhere else. Although I don't like foreigners for a multitude of reasons, their morals are much more sane. I wish I wasn't born here.





Slimebeast said:
barneystinson69 said:

And why now is the government suddenly wanting to deport over 80,000 muslums who didn't get asylum?

It's just a trick to calm the people and the Social democrats know this very well. It won't happen in reality because the majority of those 80,000 will go underground, and then after a couple of years they are are allowed to stay because the government will proclaim an amnesty for all illegal refugees (it happened many times in the past). Another method is to stay underground for four to five years and then just plead to the authorities that your familiy has gotten so used to Swedish society that they would feel awkward to return to their home country - and our jackass authorities accept this reason lol

That's the Swedish moral - if you obstruct long enough you earn the jackpot. And it's like that on every level in our society, and is one reason why criminals succeed so well here. Obstruct and complain, and eventually our insecure authorities will start questioning themselves and even question what is right and wrong lol

Sweden really is not a normal country. I have never met so many morally sick, twisted and perverted people anywhere else. Although I don't like foreigners for a multitude of reasons, their morals are much more sane. I wish I wasn't born here.



 

Finally! A swedish person I can speak to politcally! Anyway this was already obvious since its all talk and no action. I just didn't want to state that in my post since people can be "sensitive". These people will use the system. I know the Swedish think everyone is as welcoming as them, but in truth it isn't.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:
Slimebeast said:
barneystinson69 said:

And why now is the government suddenly wanting to deport over 80,000 muslums who didn't get asylum?

It's just a trick to calm the people and the Social democrats know this very well. It won't happen in reality because the majority of those 80,000 will go underground, and then after a couple of years they are are allowed to stay because the government will proclaim an amnesty for all illegal refugees (it happened many times in the past). Another method is to stay underground for four to five years and then just plead to the authorities that your familiy has gotten so used to Swedish society that they would feel awkward to return to their home country - and our jackass authorities accept this reason lol

That's the Swedish moral - if you obstruct long enough you earn the jackpot. And it's like that on every level in our society, and is one reason why criminals succeed so well here. Obstruct and complain, and eventually our insecure authorities will start questioning themselves and even question what is right and wrong lol

Sweden really is not a normal country. I have never met so many morally sick, twisted and perverted people anywhere else. Although I don't like foreigners for a multitude of reasons, their morals are much more sane. I wish I wasn't born here.



 

Finally! A swedish person I can speak to politcally! Anyway this was already obvious since its all talk and no action. I just didn't want to state that in my post since people can be "sensitive". These people will use the system. I know the Swedish think everyone is as welcoming as them, but in truth it isn't.

Apparantly OP was right. There are self-loathing swedes. They're just not in the political camp he thought they'd be in.





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This thread makes for very depressing reading. Are some people that post here really this ignorant and xenophobic? As for Sweden, as someone that travels there regularly on business, it is doing just fine.



I love how Sweden is IP banning articles that are reasonably critical of the migrants' behavior. George Orwell is rolling in his grave right now...

A demonstration of Sweden's censorship can be found here.



MichaelH said:
This thread makes for very depressing reading. Are some people that post here really this ignorant and xenophobic? As for Sweden, as someone that travels there regularly on business, it is doing just fine.

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Aura7541 said:

I love how Sweden is IP banning articles that are reasonably critical of the migrants' behavior. George Orwell is rolling in his grave right now...

A demonstration of Sweden's censorship can be found here.

Please do at least a tiny bit of research before spreading such claims. A simple google search will find you this:

"Articles on the British newspaper Daily Mail's website regarding Monday's knife attack and murder of Alexandra Mezher at an asylum center in Mölndal, have been blocked for the Swedes. The reason is that the newspaper's lawyers do not want the articles to be read from Sweden, because they, among other things, question the suspect's age."
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2446/daily-mail-blocks-sweden-for-legal-reasons.html

So no, it's not Sweden blocking articles that are reasonably critical of migrants. It's Daily Mail blocking Sweden. And it's articles pertaining to this particular subject, because of the way the newspaper chose to portray the age of the suspect.

However, fearmongers would like you to believe otherwise, and are making articles about it where people are reacting by saying things like:
"I hope Sweden's leaders are killed in the most cartoonishly brutal way possible...along with Angela Merkel. She should be publicly executed."



Slimebeast said:
barneystinson69 said:

And why now is the government suddenly wanting to deport over 80,000 muslums who didn't get asylum?

It's just a trick to calm the people and the Social democrats know this very well. It won't happen in reality because the majority of those 80,000 will go underground, and then after a couple of years they are are allowed to stay because the government will proclaim an amnesty for all illegal refugees (it happened many times in the past). Another method is to stay underground for four to five years and then just plead to the authorities that your familiy has gotten so used to Swedish society that they would feel awkward to return to their home country - and our jackass authorities accept this reason lol

That's the Swedish moral - if you obstruct long enough you earn the jackpot. And it's like that on every level in our society, and is one reason why criminals succeed so well here. Obstruct and complain, and eventually our insecure authorities will start questioning themselves and even question what is right and wrong lol

Sweden really is not a normal country. I have never met so many morally sick, twisted and perverted people anywhere else. Although I don't like foreigners for a multitude of reasons, their morals are much more sane. I wish I wasn't born here.



 

If we are so morally sick, twisted and perverted then for the love of fuck just leave, and take your hate, your propaganda and the fear mongering with you.