The sad truth is that Bloodborne was dumbed down compared to the Souls games and now we Souls fan will suffer for it.

It sold so well that From took inspiration from that and made the upcoming Dark Souls 3 take influence from Bloodborne, being faster paced and simplified and I hate that. Even the visual style is changed so that these new gamers from Bloodborne will be lured over and buy Dark Souls 3.

The greatness of Souls games is that you have to go into fights carefully and patiently. I'm sure Bloodborne is an amazing game, but it's sad they are making their games less unique, and less challenging.

Slimebeast said: The sad truth is that Bloodborne was dumbed down compared to the Souls games and now we Souls fan will suffer for it. It sold so well that From took inspiration from that and made the upcoming Dark Souls 3 take influence from Bloodborne, being faster paced and simplified and I hate that. Even the visual style is changed so that these new gamers from Bloodborne will be lured over and buy Dark Souls 3. The greatness of Souls games is that you have to go into fights carefully and patiently.

I didn't feel like it was dumbed down? Faster, yes, which is good for me. When combat is real time I prefer having some sense of speed..otherwise I play turned based. Adrenaline of getting those ultra quick perfect dodges (coupled with a quick hit) is too good.

I don't see the visual style of ds3 showing a change either.. Unfortunately for me again cause I much prefer BB's horror look over the Souls sterile dark fantasy

As for being careful and patient.. Oh that's there alright. Parriable bosses you need to check their moves and experiment with the timings. Decide what to dodge and what to parry. Unparriables are the definition of patient, as going in will just quickly get you killed. Just today I fought the Watchdog of the Old ones in Defiled chalice and half of the fight was spent with his HP at sub 30%.. Because without patience and caution I'd have died due to his last phase aggression. And I'd like to see someone go through the Upper cathedral ward first time without being careful..that's be fun to watch. Oh kin of the cosmos

Slimebeast said: The sad truth is that Bloodborne was dumbed down compared to the Souls games and now we Souls fan will suffer for it. It sold so well that From took inspiration from that and made the upcoming Dark Souls 3 take influence from Bloodborne, being faster paced and simplified and I hate that. Even the visual style is changed so that these new gamers from Bloodborne will be lured over and buy Dark Souls 3. The greatness of Souls games is that you have to go into fights carefully and patiently. I'm sure Bloodborne is an amazing game, but it's sad they are making their games less unique, and less challenging.

No, the greatness of Souls is punishing-but-fair gameplay and atmosphere so think you can cut it with a knife.

Yep also happened with the first Dark Souls for me stopped right outside the boss in blighttown. That's why I always wait until these games are really cheap so that even if I don't beat it I still get what I paid for. I paid $20 for BloodBorne and I got more then that out of the game even if I never go back. 

Slimebeast said: The sad truth is that Bloodborne was dumbed down compared to the Souls games and now we Souls fan will suffer for it. It sold so well that From took inspiration from that and made the upcoming Dark Souls 3 take influence from Bloodborne, being faster paced and simplified and I hate that. Even the visual style is changed so that these new gamers from Bloodborne will be lured over and buy Dark Souls 3. The greatness of Souls games is that you have to go into fights carefully and patiently. I'm sure Bloodborne is an amazing game, but it's sad they are making their games less unique, and less challenging.

I will agree Bloodborne is easier than Dark Souls and a bit dumbed down. Honestly though the enviorments are much better, the fighting is better and a lot more fun and really just everything is better. The only thing that wont be better is the fact that they dumbed it down which I can see why people would get mad if that's what you like. I liked that it was easier because I didnt like the dark souls being so hard some time that just got annoying.

Dark Souls 3 might be easier who knows I would hope they keep it the same so that you can have to different styles of play and everyone gets what they want.

Platinum achieved

That's funny, i'm expecting forward steps. Bloodborne was a fun deviation, but it was a step back for me.

Always interesting to read these opinion threads.

so where would you place it best game this gen ? heh

Wait, you didn't even call me to beat some bosses together?

Nah

I got some things called Vermin when I helped others, was that you? Sorry for crushing you, need those league points.