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Well, is it objectively verifiable?

Yes 57 15.20%
 
Not Sure 20 5.33%
 
No 244 65.07%
 
What's objective mean? 16 4.27%
 
Results 38 10.13%
 
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ohmylanta1003 said:
Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

How many times are we gonna have a thread like this. This is a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE!!! Fucking post shit about video games and anything at all related. This is not related. Get this shit out of here.

Why even post on this thread? This "video game website" has specific forums for non video game topics, avoid them if you want solely to speak about video games.



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teigaga said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

How many times are we gonna have a thread like this. This is a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE!!! Fucking post shit about video games and anything at all related. This is not related. Get this shit out of here.

Why even post on this thread? This "video game website" has specific forums for non video game topics, avoid them if you want solely to speak about video games.

 

I use the front page, like many other users. That's what any new users to this site would also use. Think about that. A new user coming to this video game site looking to discuss video game topics and news and he/she gets here and sees "Donald Trump", "Donald Trump", "Is God Real", "White Privalege", etc.. On and on and on and on these topics flood the front page. It's in insane. How about if YOU want to discuss things that aren't video game related, you should have to go to those specific forums. Non-video game topics should NEVER be on the front page. I will always believe that.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

Mr.Playstation said:

Moses- Existed
Jesus- Existed
Abraham -Existed

They all talked about the same god and there was a period of 2000 years between Abraham and Jesus.

According to the bible.





This is the Game of Thrones

Where you either win

or you DIE

okay there is enough evidence to support the possibility that god exists, due to the means of stuff that is not explained by science for example how did the earth get here yea yea yea I know big bang theory? but what triggered the big bang? scientifically it doesnt make sense from something to be created from nothing, so where did space come from, how does the sun exist? then there is other stuff that science cant explain demon possession for one and people say this could be hallucinations? schizophrenia but that doesnt explain how an exorcism frees someone from demons, that scientifically doesnt make sense and ive seen an exorcism first hand and it is by far the most scariest shit i have ever seen. Then other stuff like miraculous healings people being healed e.g blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, people with paralysis being able to walk...hell I watched one of my X girlfriends who had carpel tunnel get healed right in front of me! all of this stuff science cant explain, hence the supernatural element. God cant be disproved or proved therefore these debates are pointless. Its cool to not believe what someone else believes to disprove that god exists completely when there is no evidence to support that is just ignorant.

If you dont believe in god dont view less of people who do and vice versa cause nothing can be proved absolutely on this subject.

Thats my piece.



No, and it doesn't matter. We had this kind of thread before...



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Mr.Playstation said:

Moses- Existed
Jesus- Existed
Abraham -Existed

They all talked about the same god and there was a period of 2000 years between Abraham and Jesus.

 


Thats not objective. Thats just like saying homer existed. The argument among people is that homers writings were based on a bunch of poets writings and put under the alias of one homer. The words of jesus came a century of his supposed death, not catalogued as historical. Not jesus nor yeshuah as far as I have seen. Moses is not a historical figure and Abraham was said to have lived outside of Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq). Any historical proof? No.

The words of works which are not chronicled in historical order cannot be considered irrefutable proof. 



metroidking said:
okay there is enough evidence to support the possibility that god exists, due to the means of stuff that is not explained by science for example how did the earth get here yea yea yea I know big bang theory? but what triggered the big bang? scientifically it doesnt make sense from something to be created from nothing, so where did space come from, how does the sun exist? then there is other stuff that science cant explain demon possession for one and people say this could be hallucinations? schizophrenia but that doesnt explain how an exorcism frees someone from demons, that scientifically doesnt make sense and ive seen an exorcism first hand and it is by far the most scariest shit i have ever seen. Then other stuff like miraculous healings people being healed e.g blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, people with paralysis being able to walk...hell I watched one of my X girlfriends who had carpel tunnel get healed right in front of me! all of this stuff science cant explain, hence the supernatural element. God cant be disproved or proved therefore these debates are pointless. Its cool to not believe what someone else believes to disprove that god exists completely when there is no evidence to support that is just ignorant.

If you dont believe in god dont view less of people who do and vice versa cause nothing can be proved absolutely on this subject.

Thats my piece.

Science, study using the scientific method,  has not been claimed to have all the answers to the questions we currently have but when it doesnt have an answer it does not make one up. Someone saying "I don't know the answer" does not mean they have to respect someone else making one up.

And while science has not, and may not be able to, figure out what caused the big bang in the first place does not mean you can attribute the big bang to god. The argument that something cannot come from nothing applies equally to the idea of a god as anything else. If you then claim that god lies outside of known science then people could respond that any number of unknown events may lay outside of science that could cause something from nothing and that we simply don't know what it is.

Your anecdotal example of demon possession is also not convincing. and while some people may recover for unknown reasons for conditions or illness this simply means there is more for science to find out. Science does not currently hold all the answers but has proven time and time again to be the best method for determining the causes and cures for physical and mental ailments.

Things like thunder and lightning used to be considered the work of god until we were able to determine the causes of these natural events through scientific study. Your god seems to be an excuse for all the things we don't currently know and I wonder what you will do when you start to run out of questions science does not yet have the answer to.

Also there is absolutely no need to disprove that a god exist as people have yet to provide any evidence that dod does exist. You should not go around believing anything until someone disproves it to you as you have things backwards.

I do agree that people who are religious should not be looked down on for that fact alone given that most people do not pick their religion but have it drilled into their heads as children and become indoctrinated into the faith.





This is the Game of Thrones

Where you either win

or you DIE

Technically, if there was a god, he could just decide to appear in front of everyone and then there would be objective evidence of his existence.

Mr.Playstation said:

Moses- Existed
Jesus- Existed
Abraham -Existed

They all talked about the same god and there was a period of 2000 years between Abraham and Jesus.

 

Jesus was a jew, so it's no wonder he talked about the same god Moses and Abraham did. It's like saying the first pope and the last pope existed, and they both talked about the same god: of bloody course they did, they were both catholics.

Further than that, there's no proof that Moses nor Abraham existed.



GOD IS REAL AND HIS SON JESUS IS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We already totally 100% proved his undeniable existence in another thread from 2008. I'm not going to look for it now, though. Just take my word for it.