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barneystinson69 said:

The refugee crisis is BS. Thank god Sweden and Germany are deporting most of these people. People who're desperate and need to actually be saved should be the only ones left. Adult men of fighting age shoould be fighting for their country, not making other die for it...

Why the fuck should these people fight OUR wars?! We created this mess, we should deal with it. Or do your "smart missles" actually do something other than destroy innocent people's homes half the time.





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Europe and the US has consistently created problems in the Middle-East. Or we accept all these people, or we cease to bomb anyone there, IS or no IS. You can't meddle in other people's countries and not expect people to flee to here.



barneystinson69 said:

This may sound cruel, but "ok" isn't enough. These people aren't integrating, and are causing a mess! They don't want to contribute! They want to come and lay back on their feet and get spoon-fed! If these were refugee's, they'd be begging for scrap's of food, and would be looking to contribute to the country that helped them! Instead, they complain about everything, and don't appreciate the fact that these countries took them in!

so much for the fearmongering

in reality the laaarge majority of war refugees are very thankful and very willing to integrate/contribute into/to society



Lafiel said:
barneystinson69 said:

This may sound cruel, but "ok" isn't enough. These people aren't integrating, and are causing a mess! They don't want to contribute! They want to come and lay back on their feet and get spoon-fed! If these were refugee's, they'd be begging for scrap's of food, and would be looking to contribute to the country that helped them! Instead, they complain about everything, and don't appreciate the fact that these countries took them in!

so much for the fearmongering

in reality the laaarge majority of war refugees are very thankful and very willing to integrate/contribute in/to society

how? do you have polls for that? 

@ topic I will defeniatley vote the AFD in the next elections and recommend everyone in germany to do the same. Merkel is the worst chanchelor in german post-war history.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Sounds like Sweden has the right idea.

 

Rape, gang-rape, molestation and general gang-related violence is on the news every day. A single instance of these crimes used to shock our population, nowadays weather reports can gain more attention. Public baths located close to high concentrations of immigrants are forced to separate male and female visitors because girls around 15 years of age get stared at and touched by groups of strangers.

There are ways to treat actual refugess appropriately and then there is Sweden's way of letting in anyone who is able to afford smuggling themselves in to the country and passively encouraging people to throw their ID's away before entering the country.

 

Though in recent times there's been a slow change in our feminist government, now requiring ID's and planning to deport 80,000 of the refugees situated here, which is what barneystinson69 is referring to. If your post is a response to his post, I suppose you do have a point.

Yeah I was agreeing with the bolded part. 





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When you are a guest in someones' home, you don't molest their children. When you are a guest in someones' home, you don't make demands for your comfort. When you are a guest in someones' home you follow the 'house' rules and be grateful you have a roof and food. If the guests' husband/sons can't follow the rules, the whole family might get asked to leave the hosts home. Seems fair to me...



If we use the actions of the few as cultural determinants or templates for larger population demographics, I wonder how we'd be regarded if that same line of reasoning were applied to us. The crisis in the Middle East is Dr. Ronald Reaganstein's monster running loose in the village and there are many, many nations that have aided, abetted and enabled its creation. Sooner or later the day comes when you can't hide from the things you've done anymore.

Not only is it the moral imperative of the Free World to help refugees in a time of crisis (there is an Article in the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights clearly stating that these people have the basic human right to flee the region), doing so, at the very least, demonstrates accountability for the actions or inaction that resulted in this.

Keep bringing them in, keep treating them as you would treat your own neighbors, and deal with the individuals--not their group--when those people cause problems. This is not a case of Us vs Them, it is a case of Us AND Them; confusing that will only make things worse for everybody.



Lafiel said:
barneystinson69 said:

This may sound cruel, but "ok" isn't enough. These people aren't integrating, and are causing a mess! They don't want to contribute! They want to come and lay back on their feet and get spoon-fed! If these were refugee's, they'd be begging for scrap's of food, and would be looking to contribute to the country that helped them! Instead, they complain about everything, and don't appreciate the fact that these countries took them in!

so much for the fearmongering

in reality the laaarge majority of war refugees are very thankful and very willing to integrate/contribute into/to society

So can you explain why many of these refugee's are causing violence and acting demanding. Give me a source that proves this, because if this was the case, Sweden and Germany wouldn't be deporting so many people...





Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Everybody, please Google: Coudenhove-Kalergia Plan (or) The Frankfurt School of Marxist Subversion...

If you look at those camps, the majority are African men, no Syrian/Lybian. It's a total Circus!

In my village in Lancashire, England 90% of the men(!) aged 14 and above, were killed in WWII, fighting a war on foreign soil with minimal supplies. Now, their country is being invaded by Third World economic migrants. This certainly isn't what they lost their lives for.



WolfpackN64 said:
barneystinson69 said:

The refugee crisis is BS. Thank god Sweden and Germany are deporting most of these people. People who're desperate and need to actually be saved should be the only ones left. Adult men of fighting age shoould be fighting for their country, not making other die for it...

Why the fuck should these people fight OUR wars?! We created this mess, we should deal with it. Or do your "smart missles" actually do something other than destroy innocent people's homes half the time.



 

Why should Europe have to suffer, especially since they never got involved in any of those conflicts!



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).