All I want to know is what blue3's was.

Blue3 is the poster currently known as Killzone3

Ok, since I came late into this thread, I'm just going to ignore every single post since and respond to the first one. So if you've already said exactly what I said... Sorry.

I really don't think Lair has been overhyped (or even hyped at all) in the last month or two. Sure it was for some time months ago, but barely anyone has even been talking about the game for some time now.

Also, Doesn't the bold section negate the poll? How can the NEXT big PS3 system seller be games that aren't even coming out this year?

Well Stof...back in May, when this thread was made, Lair was still being hyped quite a bit, because it wasn't so obviously bad back then.

I see. That's why I should probably read threads in their entirety...

Well then, the nature of the poll issue still stands though.

Sorry bout that Stof - meant this more as an interesting read from 3 months back, to correspond with reviews we are seeing now :)

This is what i wrote months ago:
Toppic: Who out there buys games based on game reviewers? (07/04/07, 13:05)

This showing that rating don't make games good or bad, but people do. If you don't like the genre you probably won't like the game neither. Thats why i hate the hype thing, games that are meant to be just good are thrown around as ammo for a 'this thing rocks' wether the thing is an engine or console. Leaving people with too high anticipations and thus resulting in an unhappy consumer. This has happend especially in the PS3 branding, games like resistance or lair end up (or will end up) as something considered a bad game. Not that they are bad, people just expected too much of it.
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I think it still holds, I have the feeling that before the PS3 (time limited) pricedrop people just wanted the console to at least outsell the GBA. So they just kept giving reasons for people to buy one and getting each other excited by 'that month that game will come out and it will drive the console sales'.
It isn't just plain stupid, but it just gives the game a political edge and that can't be good. And admit that when we are talking about the PS3 about 60% of everything told is about the graphics it could/would/will provide. The other 5% is about Blue ray and the rest is a split up between price/PR/games/sales. And face it: currently the last 4 ones are just bad.

Don't forget that this is a trend over the whole internet and is also almost the only feedback developers get from the net: the game i'm making looks like a 360 game and it should look better and we want 1080p and 60fps. Result: a very very good looking gameboy game.

M-maybe just try to give developers good ideas, just like we had spinning around when Nintendo said that the controller would be the unique part of the Revolution. That really helped Nintendo out and still does.

eheh now I kind of want to scavenge through the old threads and see what else we can digg up

Since everyone else is chest beating about their prognostications here's mine

"I don't think those games will live up the sales figures of their hype, just too many games and not enough users for the systems they will be on. Some will also undoutedly fail to live up to the hype in all regards, if the early reviews are any indication Lair is the prime candidate for that."

Hmmm, I did include Bioshock and Mass Effect as games that won't light up the charts but in my defense "by light up the charts" I meant Gears of War sales since the argument was over "system sellers". As I expected it appear's that Bioshock's sales will be a lot closer to Lost Planet's than GoW's (much less Halo's).

As for ckmlb, wow, he's 0 for 3 on calling games (the record being negative on RE4:WE and Bioshock, positive on Lair).