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Would you quite Modern Gaming if its Digital Only?

yes 197 44.57%
 
no 245 55.43%
 
Total:442
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:

                               

There is no argument, Digital is a far more superiour way to buy and play your games. I have had more console and disk problems with my games then i ever did with digital. Your basing your argument around "What if Steam shuts down" lol honestly you really think they will shut down? If you were right another company will pick it up and continue it. Its a major cash grab.

Your next gen console relies on the internet, most of your games require internet to play and to download the day one patches. Without PSN or Live your console is a sitting brick.

Have you notice that the game box you have has nothing in it? The console only needs the disk to prove you purchased it becasue the stupid gaming community we have today hated on DRM so now we are forced to put a plastic disk in the plastic box to give the tick of approval. Buying phyiscal is a complete waste of resources and the sooner we go 100% digital the sooner we will have Steam priced games. The longer companies have to supply disks the more we will pay for digital because they want to sell you the disks first becasue again "Stupid community" 

Its not like the past where you can look at your N64 collection and go "I own those games" espeacilly with the formats we game on today its only a cover nothing else. I dont even think my PS1 or NES even work today due to there age, so i have 500+ unplayable games because i have no other way to play them. But you would rather that then have a service that looks after your games for you. Imagine you have a house fire? You lose all your games, but if you have them online there untouchable and always ready to download.

Digital is also the best form of backwards compatiablity, you dont need to own multiple types of hardware and to hope to god your old consoles still work or worse, hoping the disks/cartridges still read.

Sure you cant sell digital but you can always sell your account. I personally dont buy games to sell them.

 

yeah, cause my PS3 digital games work great on my PS4...wait



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BraLoD said:
barneystinson69 said:

No, especially now that I've upgraded my internet to the point where I can download 40-50GB games in a couple hours.

I can also download 40-50GB games in a couple tens hours... something like 50 hours or so... XP

 


Fixed that for you. ;)



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

No but i voted yes because Spemanig rustle's my jimmies. It is like sound of screeching nails on a black board.

I do think about quitting at times but it is just better to cut down.



Ruler said:
potato_hamster said:

Again, you're assuming that Sony cannot push an update to your console and install it without your knowledge. You would be wrong. It's part of the EULA you agreed to.



they cant do it. The PS4 cant turn on and download stuff

It quite literally can if its connected to the internet. My PS4 downloads and installs updates while it's turned off right now. The PS4 is never truly off if its plugged in.





Of course not, though for some reason I always feel less emotionally attached to games I buy digitally, in comparison to those I own a physical copy of. Did that make any sense? lol



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potato_hamster said:
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
My simple question to those who would is "Do you play the game or the Box?*
Google what a video game is and what its meant to do and you will find your anwser there.

 My simple question to you is "Do you prefer to buy a product, or a service that you don't control ?"

 If your Steam account is closed (for whatever reason, like not accepting a new EULA for example) you loose all your games.

Note : link redirect to a french site, so there is this that is not the same story but seems to have the same result.

Iv had my Steam account since 2004, it has been more relyable then any console purchase i have made. All my games are playable today with free updates in 2016.

Look at the benefits

My games cant get lost, Stolen, Damaged, my home storage space increases, i dont have to put the disk in the machine to play it, and i can go anywhere around the world and not have to worry about taking my games with me.

Disadvantages

That assumption electricity no longer exists.

Sorry but iv been collecting games since the 80s. I have no room or the patients with phyical games anymore. Its no longer needed.

I game because i want entertainment,  not so i can look at a box on my shelf knowing that its mine forever when in fact even phyical copy of games can still be taken away. I own many CD based games that no longer have support though a server. What if Live or PSN go down and you own 500 phyical games and you need a day one patch?

Exacty.

 Cool story bro, but you miss the point if you think that people that doesn't want the digital-only  is just for a "look at a box on my shelf" purpose.

I collect games since the 80s too, still not a problem for me, but I can understand your point about the space occupied.

I wish you to never have problem with the society of the man on your avatar.

In your 500 physical games, lets say there are  only 20 that are unplayable without their day one patch ? Still better to have 480 games playable than none if your Steam account is closed, isn't it ?

Exactly.

But it's more a DRM problem than a digital problem.

                               

There is no argument, Digital is a far more superiour way to buy and play your games. I have had more console and disk problems with my games then i ever did with digital. Your basing your argument around "What if Steam shuts down" lol honestly you really think they will shut down? If you were right another company will pick it up and continue it. Its a major cash grab.

Your next gen console relies on the internet, most of your games require internet to play and to download the day one patches. Without PSN or Live your console is a sitting brick.

Have you notice that the game box you have has nothing in it? The console only needs the disk to prove you purchased it becasue the stupid gaming community we have today hated on DRM so now we are forced to put a plastic disk in the plastic box to give the tick of approval. Buying phyiscal is a complete waste of resources and the sooner we go 100% digital the sooner we will have Steam priced games. The longer companies have to supply disks the more we will pay for digital because they want to sell you the disks first becasue again "Stupid community" 

Its not like the past where you can look at your N64 collection and go "I own those games" espeacilly with the formats we game on today its only a cover nothing else. I dont even think my PS1 or NES even work today due to there age, so i have 500+ unplayable games because i have no other way to play them. But you would rather that then have a service that looks after your games for you. Imagine you have a house fire? You lose all your games, but if you have them online there untouchable and always ready to download.

Digital is also the best form of backwards compatiablity, you dont need to own multiple types of hardware and to hope to god your old consoles still work or worse, hoping the disks/cartridges still read.

Sure you cant sell digital but you can always sell your account. I personally dont buy games to sell them.

Theres so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin. Steam has steam prices because steam has competition - Amazon, gog, humble, origin etc. all over the exact same games that can be played on the same piece of hardware. Sony has no competition in the marketplace for PS4 games. MS has no competition in the marketplace for X1 games. You're not going to see steam-style prices so long as there is only an MS marketplace on your xbox to buy xbox games. They have no reason to.

Your PS1 and N64 games should work just fine if you took care of them. I still play my PS1 and dreamcast games all the time, and some of those games are 18 years old. Why wouldn't they work? People are still playing their NES games from 1985.

As for backwards compatibility, just try getting the original GTA working on Windows 10. Tell me how much fun of an experience that is if you get it to work as its supposed to.



*Your PS1 and N64 games should work just fine if you took care of them. *

Digital you dont have to take care of them. Not everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, people have lost there belongings or even there houses. What happens then? Do you get a refund on all your games you lost to your house fire? No, can you redownload them if there digital? Yes.

I own Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City, 3, 4 and 5 on Steam and they all work perfectly fine on my 55inch TV in full screen... i didnt even need to buy a remastered edition to play it in full.  

Hardware doesnt last forever , any body could tell you that, unless you have it sealed in an air tight, dust free Nasa storage room its going to not work one day. Same goes for disks and formats.

There are no benefits anymore having the games on disks, infact you get more disadvatages having it on disk then digital. The sooner the gaming community move on the better the industry becomes.





By the time it does happen I'll probably be too old to care anymore and too busy with other life things. With a stable income I would be able to expand my classic console collections which I would become increasingly more invested in and probably gather most of my attention.  At the same time I might become increasingly uninterested in newer games because they're too new and different for me. Or maybe I'll embrace the change and continue playing modern games, I don't know.

In either scenario, if I am still interested in gaming then I probably won't quit. But even if I do because I cannot accept a digital only market then I'll still have 30-50 (?) years worth of physical gaming to go back and play, so as far as I'm concerned it's a win-win for me.



Azzanation said:

Digital you dont have to take care of them.

No. You just have to hope your consoles HDD lasts forever and the console is supported forever.

Not everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, people have lost there belongings or even there houses. What happens then? Do you get a refund on all your games you lost to your house fire?

Two words: Homeowner's insurance. Not a homeowner? Two other words: renter's insurance. There's also other precautions, like investing in a fire extinguisher and a home security system. And besides, statistically speaking a catastrophic house fire or home buglarly are rare events, while a hard drive is guaranteed to fail at some point and a console's online service is guaranteed to be shut down one day.

No, can you redownload them if there digital? Yes.

Not if the console isn't supported anymore or specific titles have been delisted. If the digital store you bought your games from ceases to exist, well, good luck redownloading them. Also, a delisted title is gone forever unless it gets relisted, and there's no guarantee that'll ever happen. Meanwhile, pretty much every notable console game can still be bought second-hand long after it's gone out of print.

Hardware doesnt last forever.

Two more words: Hardware clones. Patents only last 20 years. There's already hardware clones of every system as recent as the Genesis and SNES. N64 and PS1 clones will probably start showing up not too long from now. Also, functioning hardware units for older systems can still be bought second-hand. There were some 30 million NES units sold in North America. It's not difficult to track one down.

Same goes for disks and formats.

ROM carts and optical discs have an optimum shelf life at least as long as a human lifespan. All my games purchased in the 80s still function, as does the hardware. Good luck finding a HDD that will live 30+ years and a console whose online store will be supported for 30+ years. It ain't gonna happen.

There are no benefits anymore having the games on disks, infact you get more disadvatages having it on disk then digital. The sooner the gaming community move on the better the industry becomes.

Yeah, because giving up ownership and thus ceding total control to the rights holders and content providers in a closed ecosystem is a brilliant idea. I think after the XBO debacle of spring 2013 it's clear that gamers need to keep the industry on a short leash. Going digital is basically saying "Okay. You're the boss now. You call all the shots." There's more than sufficient evidence that the game industry cannot be trusted to not screw us over. MS already tried (and failed) giving the middle finger to the First-sale Doctrine. Console gamers don't need to be doing the same. Copyright holders have been trying for decades to gain absolute total control over everything, and if they had the chance they'd annihilate every "safety valve" there was: the First-sale Doctrine, Fair Use, and the Public Domain. I don't know how things are wherever you live, but here in the U.S. IP law is more than a bit of a joke, but what safeguards we do have have proven invaluable.

Pointing to PC as a supposed exemplar of digital distribution doesn't work, because PC is an open platform and with competing storefronts there's at least some incentive to not be total pricks to the customer. A fully-digital console would involve you buying from and only from the console maker's digital store. Buy an all-digital Xbox V or PS6? Be prepared to only be able to buy from the XBL Marketplace or PS Store and deal with the potential consequences of a de facto monopoly on content distribution on the platform. Asking for the console market to go all-digital is asking for trouble. The PC market and the console market are two totally different beasts, and while all-digital may make all the sense in the world to a PC gamer, the rules that apply to PC do not and never have applied to consoles. Period. You may enjoy Steam as a service, but please don't expect us console gamers to give up physical media just because of your personal preferences.

 





oniyide said:

yeah, cause my PS3 digital games work great on my PS4...wait

Journey and Flower, which I bought digitally for PS3, work great on my PS4. How is the retail version (Journey Collection for PS3) working on the PS4? ;)



potato_hamster said:
Ruler said:
potato_hamster said:

Again, you're assuming that Sony cannot push an update to your console and install it without your knowledge. You would be wrong. It's part of the EULA you agreed to.



they cant do it. The PS4 cant turn on and download stuff

It quite literally can if its connected to the internet. My PS4 downloads and installs updates while it's turned off right now. The PS4 is never truly off if its plugged in.



youre confusing it with sleepmode