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Has Apple lost its way?

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No (post below if possible) 39 25.16%
 
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Apple just reported earnings. Revenue and sales miss, and lower guidance. That is certainly a worrying sign...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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I have never bought a single Apple product.



Puppyroach said:
I have never seen Apple as being very innovative at all when it comes to creating technology, but they have been absolutely amazing at creating an image of exclusivity and creating user-friendly products that makes us realize how we can use existing technology in a better way. What Seve Jobs did, was to set rules as to how they should manage their image, what Products to go for and what level of quality they should have. This seems to have disappeared with Tim Cook, and I see them more as a manufacturer among everyone else nowadays, nothing really special about them.

That's the definition of innovation :P





Apple is doing fine.

It's Google that's doomed, with clicks getting less and less valuable and 75% of mobile revenue coming from the Apple devices that Google paid to be the default search engine on.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=212919

"Apple announces record quarter, Q1 2016 revenue of $75.9b: 74.8m iPhones, 16.1m iPads, 5.3m Macs"

See, I told you Apple is doing fine.



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mountaindewslave said:

Apple has been inflated in value and is not genuinely one of the most valuable companies in the world.

Its objective exchange value (determined by the market) exceeds that of any other company.

That's a fact.

Oh, I guess you are talking about your own subjective valuation of Apple.



Blouge said:
mountaindewslave said:

Apple has been inflated in value and is not genuinely one of the most valuable companies in the world.

Its objective exchange value (determined by the market) exceeds that of any other company.

That's a fact.

Oh, I guess you are talking about your own subjective valuation of Apple.

 

They just broke their own record for the highest profit ever by a single public corporation, lol (see above). 

Yeah I'd say they're doing "ok". They made 18.4 billion in profit the last 3 months to put that in perspective they just made more profit in 3 months than Nintendo did during the Wii + DS era in 5 years combined. This is fucking insane. 



Blouge said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=212919

"Apple announces record quarter, Q1 2016 revenue of $75.9b: 74.8m iPhones, 16.1m iPads, 5.3m Macs"

See, I told you Apple is doing fine.

 

Revenue missed, sales missed for all its sales targets (iPad was the largest at 2 million), and lower guidance. And Apple has beat for the past 9 years in a row, as investors always make targets lower than what could actually come. And it only beat by 5 cents a share, virtually nothing.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Thing is, Apple doesn't spend much on R&D, not as much as Google anyway. Google are like into everything whereas Apple only has the car project going on. If I was Tim Cook I'd invest into everything, from VR to tv's to consoles to the entertainment industry, everything. The war chest is so huge it wouldn't matter.



I've been saying this since the iPhone 6 back in 2014. Once that ugly phone hit the market, I've been thinking they are starting to lose their mojo. I agree with what others have said - they are not really innovators, but they take something innovative and make it easily approachable and usable. I think mobile devices in general - phones, tablets, laptops, etc. have reached a saturation point where everyone has a product that looks and functions and does things similar to each other. Devices have also reached the point where they are more than powerful enough to do everything one does - email, facebook, youtube, netflix, etc. So people are holding onto them for longer and not seeing the need to upgrade every year.

VR/AR is here to stay and that is the next blow you away tech that Apple has plans for I am sure, but as always they usually take the best of what works and improves on them before they release their own iteration. Curious and excited to see how the end of this decade turns out in terms of technology.